From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.129.108.13 with SMTP id h13mr10315857ywc.93.1498741052359; Thu, 29 Jun 2017 05:57:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.36.19.1 with SMTP id 1mr313122itz.4.1498741052304; Thu, 29 Jun 2017 05:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!m54no1396438qtb.1!news-out.google.com!s132ni1652itb.0!nntp.google.com!188no80131itx.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 05:57:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6529c392-f042-4dfe-8cdb-b785406ad788@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=136.163.203.9; posting-account=g0yTkgoAAADdZGEYyZahxGlO3EkjH0Wv NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.163.203.9 References: <1813789782.509760763.093426.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <87varxjouh.fsf@nightsong.com> <250466748.510009784.561340.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <87fuelzvcq.fsf@jacob-sparre.dk> <4e60ac97-7f4f-47e7-847a-e27983accd4b@googlegroups.com> <57c26106-4e4f-464f-83e9-fe52de614cd7@googlegroups.com> <6529c392-f042-4dfe-8cdb-b785406ad788@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <8f158c97-f825-46e0-8ea0-59d63c66cfcb@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: State of the compiler market From: Petter Fryklund Injection-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:57:32 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:47174 Date: 2017-06-29T05:57:31-07:00 List-Id: Den torsdag 29 juni 2017 kl. 13:36:04 UTC+2 skrev Lucretia: > On Thursday, 29 June 2017 06:46:46 UTC+1, gautier...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > > > Some people have been saying this for years, but how long it long enough to wait? I think it's worth starting to look at this now. > > > > > > > > Luke > > > > > > I think it might be. > > > One thing that might be good to do is look into how to make the language smaller [...] > > > > Probably the best is to make a branch of GNAT, call your new language "Beb" (you'd have then Beb.Text_IO, Beb.Numerics, etc.) and start experimenting with it. > > I'd have a few wishes like: > > - rename String to Fixed_String and Unbounded_String to String > > - make Sin, Cos, Log, etc. automatically visible just like "*" for floating-point types > > God no! Remove character and string from standard. Introduce code_points and unicode strings, add "net" packages, add "xml" packages. Basically all the text based stuff the modern world uses and every other language gets for free. > > Add a "UI" package so that we can do Object Pascal type stuff easily. Ada can easily do UI or graphics, yet all that stuff in planes is handled by C++, why? > I agree, it took my then one-year old daughter less than 2 minutes to crash the entertainment system on a flight back from China. > Possibly change the coding styles a bit to try to appeal to the C crowd. > > Remove access types in functions, allow in out in them. > > Allow custom types to have 'Image and other similar attributes. > > That's just a start, but this would really need to be a new language in the same vein as Ada, not a fork.