From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fec54,d78446895d1cb3b0 X-Google-Attributes: gidfec54,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d78446895d1cb3b0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 108abf,670aa2795fbf5078 X-Google-Attributes: gid108abf,public X-Google-Thread: 10ab2c,28f46de42acbd47 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ab2c,public From: coleridge@usenet-performance-arto.rg (jim carleton (new! improved!)) Subject: Re: Boeing Begins Flight Testing F-22 Block 3S Avionics Date: 2000/04/30 Message-ID: <8eglc1$7v2$8@wilhelp.databasix.com> X-Deja-AN: 617415316 X-Honorary-APDD-Empire-D00D: #n1ppl35 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <390768F4.9FCE513@home.com> <8e7vio$28f$10@blackhelicopter.databasix.com> <8e8c15$ai3$2@ljutefisk.databasix.com> <8e9eh9$fsj$14@ljutefisk.databasix.com> <9K4O4.919$wb7.88787@news.flash.net> <390A06C3.1862D7AB@home.com> <8eemce$jmh$6@shpxurnq.databasix.com> <390B24EC.DA16AD3C@home.com> <8egedh$nm6$5@wilhelp.databasix.com> X-Bungmunch-U-Deanship: Dept. of Genetic Engineering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: DataBasix - Raleigh, NC USA Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military,comp.lang.ada,alt.non.sequitur,alt.music.joe-carta-band X-Meow: Occasionally X-3R6471C-Army-Rank: Leiutnenennt!!!1 Date: 2000-04-30T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Axel was trying desperately to communicate the following: >David Castrodale proves the law of fives: > >> >> >>Axel wrote: >>> >>> David Castrodale proves the law of fives: >>> >>> > >>> > >>> >Beekeeper wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:32:33 -0400, hoKEy wOLf wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >In article <9K4O4.919$wb7.88787@news.flash.net>, "Ken Garlington" >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> "hoKEy wOLf" wrote in message >>> >> >> news:yep-7663B5.19194027042000@allnews.infi.net... >>> >> >> > In article <8e9eh9$fsj$14@ljutefisk.databasix.com>, David Kim >>> >> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > > "counterpoint: jim carleton" >>> >> >> > > finally >>> >> >> > > loses it: >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >This, from Axel: >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > > >>David Castrodale proves the law of fives: >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > > >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>Ken Garlington wrote: >>> >> >> > > >>>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> "Tarver Engineering" wrote in message >>> >> >> > > >>>> news:39074a04_3@news4.newsfeeds.com... >>> >> >> > > >>>> > >>> >> >> > > >>>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > Ah, now I see what's been confusing you! >>> >> >> > > >>>> > >>> >> >> > > >>>> > I am not in the least confused Ken and in fact it is yourself >>> >> >> that >>> >> >> > > >>>> > has had >>> >> >> > > >>>> > to make major modifications to your original statements to >>> >> >> > > >>>> > maintain any >>> >> >> > > >>>> kind >>> >> >> > > >>>> > of credibility. >>> >> >> > > >>>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> a) Cite "major modifications"? (I know, it's a waste of >>> >> >> > > >>>> bandwidth >>> >> >> to >>> >> >> > > >>>> ask for >>> >> >> > > >>>> justification from a tarver generator -- sort of like asking a >>> >> >> > > >>>> fart >>> >> >> > > >>>> why it >>> >> >> > > >>>> smells -- but I always feel obliged to make the point...) >>> >> >> > > >>>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> b) If you're not confused, then I assume the strange claim that >>> >> >> > > >>>> there's a >>> >> >> > > >>>> sudden 5+ month slip in the F-22 schedule was just a tarver. >>> >> >> > > >>>> I'll >>> >> >> > > >>>> give you a >>> >> >> > > >>>> double-tarver if you make it a 10+ month slip based on some >>> >> >> > > >>>> random >>> >> >> > > >>>> words in >>> >> >> > > >>>> this post. >>> >> >> > > >>>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > The designation "4004" refers to an _airframe_. Block 3S >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > refers >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > to a >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > _software configuration_. Although not all software >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > configurations are >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > compatible with all airframes, there is not a one-to-one >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > correspondence. >>> >> >> > > >>>> > >>> >> >> > > >>>> > So in fact the software suite fails the first test of Ada >>> >> >> > > >>>> transportability. >>> >> >> > > >>>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> Actually, no. Aircraft 4001-4003 do not have a CIP (Common >>> >> >> > > >>>> Integrated >>> >> >> > > >>>> Processor) installed, nor do they have all of the sensors that >>> >> >> > > >>>> are >>> >> >> > > >>>> installed >>> >> >> > > >>>> in the later aircraft. Ada's good, but no software language can >>> >> >> > > >>>> compensate >>> >> >> > > >>>> for missing hardware. In other words, if you select the "print" >>> >> >> > > >>>> function in >>> >> >> > > >>>> your favorite software package, and you have no printer, only a >>> >> >> > > >>>> crazy person >>> >> >> > > >>>> (Q.E.D.) would complain about the software. >>> >> >> > > >>>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > Why thank you Mr. Garlington for helping those of us at ram >>> >> >> > > >>>> > understand >>> >> >> > > >>>> > Software, >>> >> >> > > >>>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> You're quite Welcome. I know that some people have difficulty >>> >> >> > > >>>> using >>> >> >> > > >>>> the >>> >> >> > > >>>> Internet (e.g., being unable to locate references on the Wall >>> >> >> Street >>> >> >> > > >>>> Journal >>> >> >> > > >>>> website), but there's certainly no reason to be embarrassed >>> >> >> > > >>>> about >>> >> >> > > >>>> it. Glad >>> >> >> > > >>>> to clear up any confusion about the distinction between 4001 >>> >> >> > > >>>> (scheduled to >>> >> >> > > >>>> be delivered in May) and Block 3.0 software (scheduled to be >>> >> >> > > >>>> delivered at >>> >> >> > > >>>> the end of October). >>> >> >> > > >>>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > You may find it helpful to read the Delaney reference >>> >> >> previously >>> >> >> > > >>>> provided: >>> >> >> > > >>>> > >>> >> >> > > >>>> > >>> >> >> > > >>>> > >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > * "Block 3S, is currently in testing at the AIL and >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > initiates >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > the sensor >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > fusion and sensor tasking key to the F-22 performance." >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > * "Block 3.0 software... will provide the full sensor fusion >>> >> >> and >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > weapons >>> >> >> > > >>>> > > integration for the F-22." >>> >> >> > > >>>> > >>> >> >> > > >>>> > John >>> >> >> > > >>>> > >>> >> >> > > >>>> > >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> the >>> >> >> > > >>>> bridge> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> (Cross-posted to alt.non.sequitur and comp.lang.ada, since both >>> >> >> seem >>> >> >> > > >>>> to now >>> >> >> > > >>>> be relevant.) >>> >> >> > > >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>you have no idea what you've just gotten yourself into >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > > >>I'm just a truck-drivin' man. >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > > >we here at comp.lang.ada are a little weird, if you know what i mean >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > I'm going to name my son Gargamel. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > SEE? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> SAW! >>> >> > >>> >> >Today, Bullwinkle stands nearly 300 feet above sea level. >>> >> >>> >> yep, sounds like you've got kiddum cats. better try moving the yellow pieces >>> > >>> >what are you, some sort of demographic? >>> >>> Yes, and he reads Tom Clancy novels for a living. >> >>i know that guy, he always picks his own lobster at the supermarket and >>then yells at the people when it's not the right one > >What is the lowest phylum you have ever consumed? JAMES TAYLOR