From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fec54,d78446895d1cb3b0 X-Google-Attributes: gidfec54,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d78446895d1cb3b0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10ab2c,28f46de42acbd47 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ab2c,public X-Google-Thread: 108abf,670aa2795fbf5078 X-Google-Attributes: gid108abf,public From: "counterpoint: jim carleton" Subject: Re: Boeing Begins Flight Testing F-22 Block 3S Avionics Date: 2000/04/27 Message-ID: <8eauub$1g2$1@ljutefisk.databasix.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 616645934 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <390721ce_4@news4.newsfeeds.com> <1JHN4.122$wb7.9308@news.flash.net> <39074a04_3@news4.newsfeeds.com> <17IN4.169$wb7.9885@news.flash.net> <390768F4.9FCE513@home.com> <8e7vio$28f$10@blackhelicopter.databasix.com> <8e8c15$ai3$2@ljutefisk.databasix.com> <8e9eh9$fsj$14@ljutefisk.databasix.com> <9K4O4.919$wb7.88787@news.flash.net> Organization: dean, bungmunch university, dept. of genetic engineering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military,comp.lang.ada,alt.non.sequitur,alt.music.joe-carta-band Date: 2000-04-27T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: This, from hoKEy wOLf: >In article <9K4O4.919$wb7.88787@news.flash.net>, "Ken Garlington" > wrote: > >> "hoKEy wOLf" wrote in message >> news:yep-7663B5.19194027042000@allnews.infi.net... >> > In article <8e9eh9$fsj$14@ljutefisk.databasix.com>, David Kim >> > wrote: >> > >> > > "counterpoint: jim carleton" >> > > finally >> > > loses it: >> > > >> > > >This, from Axel: >> > > > >> > > >>David Castrodale proves the law of fives: >> > > >> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>>Ken Garlington wrote: >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> "Tarver Engineering" wrote in message >> > > >>>> news:39074a04_3@news4.newsfeeds.com... >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > > Ah, now I see what's been confusing you! >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > I am not in the least confused Ken and in fact it is yourself >> that >> > > >>>> > has had >> > > >>>> > to make major modifications to your original statements to >> > > >>>> > maintain any >> > > >>>> kind >> > > >>>> > of credibility. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> a) Cite "major modifications"? (I know, it's a waste of >> > > >>>> bandwidth >> to >> > > >>>> ask for >> > > >>>> justification from a tarver generator -- sort of like asking a >> > > >>>> fart >> > > >>>> why it >> > > >>>> smells -- but I always feel obliged to make the point...) >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> b) If you're not confused, then I assume the strange claim that >> > > >>>> there's a >> > > >>>> sudden 5+ month slip in the F-22 schedule was just a tarver. >> > > >>>> I'll >> > > >>>> give you a >> > > >>>> double-tarver if you make it a 10+ month slip based on some >> > > >>>> random >> > > >>>> words in >> > > >>>> this post. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > > The designation "4004" refers to an _airframe_. Block 3S >> > > >>>> > > refers >> > > >>>> > > to a >> > > >>>> > > _software configuration_. Although not all software >> > > >>>> > > configurations are >> > > >>>> > > compatible with all airframes, there is not a one-to-one >> > > >>>> > > correspondence. >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > So in fact the software suite fails the first test of Ada >> > > >>>> transportability. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> Actually, no. Aircraft 4001-4003 do not have a CIP (Common >> > > >>>> Integrated >> > > >>>> Processor) installed, nor do they have all of the sensors that >> > > >>>> are >> > > >>>> installed >> > > >>>> in the later aircraft. Ada's good, but no software language can >> > > >>>> compensate >> > > >>>> for missing hardware. In other words, if you select the "print" >> > > >>>> function in >> > > >>>> your favorite software package, and you have no printer, only a >> > > >>>> crazy person >> > > >>>> (Q.E.D.) would complain about the software. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > Why thank you Mr. Garlington for helping those of us at ram >> > > >>>> > understand >> > > >>>> > Software, >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> You're quite Welcome. I know that some people have difficulty >> > > >>>> using >> > > >>>> the >> > > >>>> Internet (e.g., being unable to locate references on the Wall >> Street >> > > >>>> Journal >> > > >>>> website), but there's certainly no reason to be embarrassed >> > > >>>> about >> > > >>>> it. Glad >> > > >>>> to clear up any confusion about the distinction between 4001 >> > > >>>> (scheduled to >> > > >>>> be delivered in May) and Block 3.0 software (scheduled to be >> > > >>>> delivered at >> > > >>>> the end of October). >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > > You may find it helpful to read the Delaney reference >> previously >> > > >>>> provided: >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > * "Block 3S, is currently in testing at the AIL and >> > > >>>> > > initiates >> > > >>>> > > the sensor >> > > >>>> > > fusion and sensor tasking key to the F-22 performance." >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > * "Block 3.0 software... will provide the full sensor fusion >> and >> > > >>>> > > weapons >> > > >>>> > > integration for the F-22." >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > John >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > >> > > >>>> > > > >>>> the >> > > >>>> bridge> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> (Cross-posted to alt.non.sequitur and comp.lang.ada, since both >> seem >> > > >>>> to now >> > > >>>> be relevant.) >> > > >>> >> > > >>>you have no idea what you've just gotten yourself into >> > > >> >> > > >>I'm just a truck-drivin' man. >> > > > >> > > >we here at comp.lang.ada are a little weird, if you know what i mean >> > > >> > > I'm going to name my son Gargamel. >> > >> > SEE? >> >> SAW! > >Today, Bullwinkle stands nearly 300 feet above sea level. it's remarkable when such a plastic masterpiece flies away.