From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fec54,d78446895d1cb3b0 X-Google-Attributes: gidfec54,public X-Google-Thread: 108abf,670aa2795fbf5078 X-Google-Attributes: gid108abf,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,d78446895d1cb3b0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10ab2c,28f46de42acbd47 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ab2c,public From: "counterpoint: jim carleton" Subject: Re: Boeing Begins Flight Testing F-22 Block 3S Avionics Date: 2000/04/26 Message-ID: <8e8c15$ai3$2@ljutefisk.databasix.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 616216499 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <390721ce_4@news4.newsfeeds.com> <1JHN4.122$wb7.9308@news.flash.net> <39074a04_3@news4.newsfeeds.com> <17IN4.169$wb7.9885@news.flash.net> <390768F4.9FCE513@home.com> <8e7vio$28f$10@blackhelicopter.databasix.com> Organization: dean, bungmunch university, dept. of genetic engineering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military,comp.lang.ada,alt.non.sequitur,alt.music.joe-carta-band Date: 2000-04-26T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: This, from Axel: >David Castrodale proves the law of fives: > >> >> >>Ken Garlington wrote: >>> >>> "Tarver Engineering" wrote in message >>> news:39074a04_3@news4.newsfeeds.com... >>> > >>> >>> > > Ah, now I see what's been confusing you! >>> > >>> > I am not in the least confused Ken and in fact it is yourself that has had >>> > to make major modifications to your original statements to maintain any >>> kind >>> > of credibility. >>> >>> a) Cite "major modifications"? (I know, it's a waste of bandwidth to ask for >>> justification from a tarver generator -- sort of like asking a fart why it >>> smells -- but I always feel obliged to make the point...) >>> >>> b) If you're not confused, then I assume the strange claim that there's a >>> sudden 5+ month slip in the F-22 schedule was just a tarver. I'll give you a >>> double-tarver if you make it a 10+ month slip based on some random words in >>> this post. >>> >>> > > The designation "4004" refers to an _airframe_. Block 3S refers to a >>> > > _software configuration_. Although not all software configurations are >>> > > compatible with all airframes, there is not a one-to-one correspondence. >>> > >>> > So in fact the software suite fails the first test of Ada >>> transportability. >>> >>> Actually, no. Aircraft 4001-4003 do not have a CIP (Common Integrated >>> Processor) installed, nor do they have all of the sensors that are installed >>> in the later aircraft. Ada's good, but no software language can compensate >>> for missing hardware. In other words, if you select the "print" function in >>> your favorite software package, and you have no printer, only a crazy person >>> (Q.E.D.) would complain about the software. >>> >>> > Why thank you Mr. Garlington for helping those of us at ram understand >>> > Software, >>> >>> You're quite Welcome. I know that some people have difficulty using the >>> Internet (e.g., being unable to locate references on the Wall Street Journal >>> website), but there's certainly no reason to be embarrassed about it. Glad >>> to clear up any confusion about the distinction between 4001 (scheduled to >>> be delivered in May) and Block 3.0 software (scheduled to be delivered at >>> the end of October). >>> >>> > > You may find it helpful to read the Delaney reference previously >>> provided: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > * "Block 3S, is currently in testing at the AIL and initiates the sensor >>> > > fusion and sensor tasking key to the F-22 performance." >>> > > >>> > > * "Block 3.0 software... will provide the full sensor fusion and weapons >>> > > integration for the F-22." >>> > >>> > John >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> (Cross-posted to alt.non.sequitur and comp.lang.ada, since both seem to now >>> be relevant.) >> >>you have no idea what you've just gotten yourself into > >I'm just a truck-drivin' man. we here at comp.lang.ada are a little weird, if you know what i mean