From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1dd6e2be4c0d7027,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 11232c,1dd6e2be4c0d7027,start X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: 115007,25eb4a3a85a613c3 X-Google-Attributes: gid115007,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-05-06 20:20:12 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mailgate.org!mygate.mailgate.org!198.207.153.205!not-for-mail From: "Kent Paul Dolan" Newsgroups: comp.lang.logo,misc.misc,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Programmers resistance to easier programming languages? Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 03:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <8e2ac7da1ea18138821417a2fc68ae49.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.207.153.205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.mailgate.org 1020740821 1442 198.207.153.205 (Tue May 7 05:20:11 2002) X-Complaints-To: abuse@mailgate.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 03:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Injector-Info: news.mailgate.org; posting-host=198.207.153.205; posting-account=48257; posting-date=1020740821 User-Agent: Mailgate Web Server X-URL: http://mygate.mailgate.org/mynews/comp/comp.lang.logo/8e2ac7da1ea18138821417a2fc68ae49.48257%40mygate.mailgate.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.logo:6115 misc.misc:7133 comp.lang.ada:23614 Date: 2002-05-07T03:20:11+00:00 List-Id: "Catarina Jonneryd" wrote: There was an antique (1970's) Federal Government document called "Organizational Preparedness for Change" that might prove useful. It may even have been a FIPS (Federal Information Processing Standards) document, at least it sat on my shelves among my collection of FIPS docs back then. > I'm writing a MSc thesis about things that ought to be considered when > scripting is offered in system development environments. Been there, seen the problems for 41 years now. For a profession full of people who have to steep themselves in change simply to survive, programmers are about as inflexible as it is possible to be. > Does anybody know of research done on resistance that experienced > programmers might have towards simpler form of programming? Study up on the debacle the military enjoyed when Ada, a programming language better designed for military programming purposes than the dozen or so incompatible existing ones in use by their staff and contractors, was attempted to be imposed from above to replace all those languages. Let's just say the military blinked before the programmers did. You might also browse the Carneige(sp?) Mellon University's Software Engineering Institute's work on software development capability maturity models, especially their papers on how hard it is to get their methods accepted. A recent one was entitled "why aren't they practicing what we preach?" if I recall correctly. > Can anybody point towards literature in some other domain, than programming, > about expert knowledge getting in the way of learning simpler ways of doing > things? _Future Shock_ ring a bell? xanthian. Speaking as someone who put off (in a snit at the clumsy way it was first released) learning Perl for six years, and deeply regrets every minute spent having to do stuff without it, but also as someone who's learned nearly a gross of programming languages over four decades. Trying to introduce Easytrieve into a shop of diehard COBOL programmers (200 of them) at a shipyard is another tale of woe I could share. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG