From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,2b11c5d8b0c4e770 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Received: by 10.66.77.41 with SMTP id p9mr1554650paw.8.1345443045682; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 23:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Path: p10ni110209204pbh.1!nntp.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!novia!news-peer1!btnet!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!feeder1.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!94.232.116.12.MISMATCH!feed.xsnews.nl!border-2.ams.xsnews.nl!plix.pl!newsfeed2.plix.pl!news.mi.ras.ru!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Martin Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: IBM (Rational) Ada now owned by Atego! Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 00:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <8db0e126-1064-44c8-aed9-d304eb854901@googlegroups.com> References: <80499a1a109c36fdf4b9ba28fbc30741@dizum.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 20.133.0.8 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1345189090 7995 127.0.0.1 (17 Aug 2012 07:38:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 07:38:10 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=20.133.0.8; posting-account=g4n69woAAACHKbpceNrvOhHWViIbdQ9G User-Agent: G2/1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-08-17T00:38:09-07:00 List-Id: On Friday, August 17, 2012 2:49:44 AM UTC+1, Britt wrote: > On Aug 16, 4:45=A0pm, Nomen Nescio wrote: >=20 > > Sorry if this is old news but I didn't see a post on the subject. IBM h= as >=20 > > sold their Ada line to Atego. >=20 > > >=20 > > http://www-01.ibm.com/software/rational/info/apex-ada/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > The news isn't too old. Martin posted it here on Jul 25 and Atego had >=20 > announced it the Ada discussion group on LinkedIn. >=20 >=20 >=20 > I think it is good news since Apex was a very good (though costly) >=20 > development environment. I used it from 1996-2002. However IBM hadn't >=20 > changed it much in recent years. I hope Atego can revitalize Apex and >=20 > make it competitive again. While I'm currently a great fan (and >=20 > supported customer) of AdaCore and GNAT Pro, I know its not good for >=20 > the Ada language and the Ada user community to have only one healthy >=20 > compiler vendor. >=20 >=20 >=20 > AdaCore has taken over the commercial Ada market because they (in my >=20 > opinion) do everything right with their support subscription based >=20 > business model, their proactive development of supporting >=20 > technologies, their early implementation of new Ada standards, and by >=20 > strongly promoting the Ada language itself rather that just selling >=20 > tools. If not for what AdaCore has done over the last 17 years or so, >=20 > there would be much less use of Ada today. So while I wish Atego >=20 > success with both Apex and ObjectAda, I don't think they will regain >=20 > much market-share unless they choose to become more like AdaCore. If >=20 > they do then I think there will be enough business for all. >=20 >=20 >=20 > - Britt Wouldn't it be bizarre (but rather brilliant) if Atego opened up ObjectAda = and/or Apex to the single-user/small company market? How about a $100 / =A3= 100 / Euro100 per year subscription model?... -- Martin