From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,54c513170bafd693 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Tarjei T. Jensen" Subject: Re: Desirability of C++ Date: 2000/04/15 Message-ID: <8d9s0a$62r6@ftp.kvaerner.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 611510780 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <01HW.B4BFC2820005B06B08A24140@news.pacbell.net> <20000204073443.24976.00001288@ng-ci1.aol.com> <87euk0$c93$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <01HW.B4C1346100072D2408A24140@news.pacbell.net> <949867976.281549@the-rowan.albatross.co.nz> <8766v93w66.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org> <38E8C81A.AA62CF4C@HiWAAY.net> <7EA1B852F5D4D8C6.26EEE9181C80F0DF.0161EA2D9C353253@lp.airnews.net> <01HW.B51C1B6E00F41C2D04BB51B0@news.pacbell.net> <38F796B2.A99A206A@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <38F7A27A.4F7729FA@raytheon.com> <38F7DA95.A9E1F5@quadruscorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Organization: Kv�rner Group IT Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-04-15T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Marin D. Condic wrote : >I don't know about hiring C++ programmers from experience. I know there >is a general shortage of good technical people, so C++ programmers must >be hard to get too. I *do* know that finding qualified Ada programmers >can be very difficult. I'm still looking for some in different locations >and I'm not being battered by resumes. If I were hiring Ada programmers I would try to structure my efforts and plan ahead. I would try to make sure that students which are trained in Ada would know about my company. The strategy would be to hire some out of university and make sure that all the rest knew that I might want to hire them later when they had aquired more experience. The idea is to get them to look up your company web site and look for an Ada job when they are fed up with C/C++ etc. "When you want or need to get a life, look us up!" If I owned the company I would offer students prizes if they contributed useful software to the Ada community. The idea would be to organize small/medium projects which universities could use and then offer prizes for the best entry. Prizes could be a small grant/computer hardware or some other desirables. Perhaps also a contribution to the university, department or library. This would depend on their situation. In some parts of the world, just getting used PCs would do wonders. Some would be very happy if they got books for their libraries. For private persons I might do deals like: You want to go to tri-ada? If you get me a quality Ada library which allow us to import/export data to spreadsheets and dbase/access I'll pay travel and hotel for you. And if you are poor, some spending money as well. Sure I would be spending some money, but compared to the potential productivity gains it would give if I could get the people I want it would be a pittance. And perhaps also tax deductible. If I knew of other companies which also would be looking for Ada programmers I would contact them and see if there was any possibility of a joint recruitment drive. The more companies, the more likely one would be able to "innoculate" the students against C++. "This is what you want to be doing in a few years". Lastly, a message from the campaign for mor technical Ada articles: You want Ada programmers? Write those articles in Dr. Dobbs and get Ada noticed. If there is an occational Ada related article in Dr. Dobbs then a lot of the FUD we are used to would go away. The point is that we want to be able to say: Ada a dying language???? Just last year there were articles in Dr Dobbs about Ada projects. Greetings,