From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,4f36545ebe2d5763 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Richard D Riehle Subject: Re: ObjectAda and Feb 29th Date: 2000/03/08 Message-ID: <8a4eog$v35$1@slb1.atl.mindspring.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 594533316 References: <368601769wnr@natron.demon.co.uk> <89j9vq$lvp$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <38c463df@eeyore.callnetuk.com> Organization: MindSpring Enterprises X-Server-Date: 8 Mar 2000 02:43:28 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-03-08T02:43:28+00:00 List-Id: In article , Hyman Rosen wrote: >"Nick Roberts" writes: >> Of course, it would be interesting to live to the year 2400, just to see if >> the C++ standard has stabilized by then. > >The C++ Standard is already stabilized. It's ISO/IEC 14882. >It was approved by ANSI on 7/27/98. C++, the Standard, is relatively stable. Still has problems with numerics though since the numerics guy left the project before that part got really stable. The C++ compilers are not stable, not consistent, and not conformant with the standard. Of course, one can also find Ada compilers that fit that description. We have to differentiate between the compiler publisher's implementation and the description of the standard. When making this distinction, Ada, the language, is clearly better defined. C++ is better when it comes to finding tools and variety of compilers from which to select. C++, in its earliest forms, when Dr. Stroustup still had control over its destiny, was showing signs of becoming a relatively good language. What it has become, with the new standard, is messier than it could have been. Too bad. Some who have looked at Ada 95 feel the same way about what Ada has become. I guess we can never satisfy everyone. That seems to be part of the motivation for the mad rush to Java: the most recent entry into the "silver bullet" contest. Funny how Dr. Brooks' challenge remains unfulfilled. Richard Riehle