From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,325c54deb91283fd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-25 13:05:07 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.airnews.net!cabal12.airnews.net!usenet From: "John R. Strohm" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada in Iraq Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:52:11 -0500 Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America Message-ID: <8DA58C4BE1E438B1.AAC82FA0A44AFFCC.8BAB9606775F97B4@lp.airnews.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: References: <20619edc.0304250946.204a7ae1@posting.google.com> Abuse-Reports-To: abuse at airmail.net to report improper postings NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library2.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Fri Apr 25 15:04:07 2003 NNTP-Posting-Host: !_ZiF1k-XrM^!)$ (Encoded at Airnews!) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:36573 Date: 2003-04-25T14:52:11-05:00 List-Id: "Mike Silva" wrote in message news:20619edc.0304250946.204a7ae1@posting.google.com... > I think the best you could hope for is to do a part of the project in > Ada and have great success while the rest of the project founders. :-/ Russ, Mike has the beginnings of a really good idea here, if you can find a sympathetic, smart senior manager. Your firm probably has some internal R&D budget laying around. Take a good look at the upcoming air traffic management project, find a chunk that can be relatively easily carved out, that IS fairly central, not peripherally trivial. Put together a proposal package, containing the various success studies from Boeing, Pratt & Whitney, and elsewhere, along with the down-the-hall guy's diatribe, and some cost estimates, and go pitch a quiet, back hallway IR&D, to FIND OUT whether Ada in fact is as good as Boeing and Pratt say it is. Take the same metrics as the mainstream guys are going to take, track the same deliverables, and then, when the dust settles, see who got thar fustest with the mostest, to paraphase someone or other from the American Revolution. Work from the same requirements specifications and interface control documents as the C/C++/Java folks. You want to demonstrate something that will plug-and-play with their system. Admit up front that there will be some training costs, but these other studies (have them in your hands) show that it won't be that bad. Play up the quality/reliability/maintainability stuff. Note in passing that the Ada programmers on the market tend to be MUCH more accustomed to working in high-reliability applications than the typical C++ programmers.