From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac6c4134c47b12b0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Jeff Creem" Subject: Re: Elaboration checks Date: 2000/02/13 Message-ID: <887h3g$hs7$1@pyrite.mv.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 585524050 References: <38A6BB10.560D973A@dowie-cs.demon.co.uk> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mv.com X-Trace: pyrite.mv.net 950486960 18311 199.125.98.85 (14 Feb 2000 00:09:20 GMT) Organization: MV Communications, Inc. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Feb 2000 00:09:20 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-02-14T00:09:20+00:00 List-Id: Martin Dowie wrote in message news:38A6BB10.560D973A@dowie-cs.demon.co.uk... > about 15% of our executable appear to be made up of elaboration checks > (this is the size difference after inserting configuration pragma > suppress (elaboration_check)). > > this is pushing us over our 50% memory usage requirement. our plan is > now to have 2 builds - one with elaboration checks the other without > (which would become our deliverable). is it true to say that if no > elaboration checks fail in the 'full' build, that our 'small' build is > also safe? > > we plan to ensure that each of our packages provides an 'Initialise' > routine to assign package-local initial values. all our tasks currently > block on an 'accept Initialise' already. > > anything else we can do? > > environment is Rational Apex 3.0.0b (3.2 being evaluated as i type) > targeting PowerPC. Rational have also informed us that we *can not* > switch on any level of optimization as "it won't work"(!). > Please someone from Rational please respond to this last sentence. I have gone around few times the past few years with Rational related to the size of Apex executables and the speed at which the compiled code executes. Just when I think that after several years things are getting better I hear something like this. At times in the past I was told I was the only customer who ever complained about the poor quality of generated code and that I had too narrow a focus (Yes Mr. Manager, I know it will cost $4000 extra per delivered unit because we need an extra processor and more RAM and flash but look at how well Apex is integrated with Clear case...Woops..bad example, I mean look at how cheap the tools and support are...Woops...Ok but they are getting in good with Microsoft these days..That has to be worth something).