From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,9a5f3bd162009c01 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsread.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net!news.glorb.com!blackbush.cw.net!cw.net!feed.news.schlund.de!schlund.de!news.online.de!not-for-mail From: Michael Bode Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT GPL 2005: Too clever by half? Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 01:30:52 +0200 Organization: 1&1 Internet AG Message-ID: <87zmq39xar.fsf@code-hal.de> References: <70e0e$4331acfc$4995583$14979@ALLTEL.NET> <87hdcew7wq.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: p54af1bd6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: online.de 1127518252 9298 84.175.27.214 (23 Sep 2005 23:30:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@einsundeins.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:30:52 +0000 (UTC) X-message-flag: IMPORTANT MESSAGE -- PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY!!! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII, .rtf, .ps, .pdf - *NO* MS Office files User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:aXqivZMa63bGihH7oMOiGVrarm0= Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:5079 Date: 2005-09-24T01:30:52+02:00 List-Id: Ludovic Brenta writes: > I'll repeat once more: I personally have no objection to libgnat being > GPLed. And now today's idea: if AdaCore came out of the closet and > said "from now on we do dual licensing like TrollTech, MySQL or > Sleepycat", I'd have no problems with that, and I'd find it difficult > to sympathise with "greedy proprietary capitalists". But that's just what happend now. The only problem is that AdaCore seems to say "Gnat is for 2 types of developers: GPL developers and the ones like Airbus and Boeing. If you are a One-Man-Show(*) closed-source developer, go away, use ObjectAda or forget about Ada altogether." Which is still fine, but could someone please explain to me what's their profit from this strategy? They already have the contracts from Airbus and Boeing and they sure won't get much contracts from the One-Man-Shows at 14000$/year when one can get Visual C++/C# between 119� and 899�. (*) this also includes larger businesses where software is only a small part of the product. What should a "greedy proprietary capitalist" do if he simply happens to need a third party closed-source library in his Ada app? Something like a DLL to access an device like a spectrometer or a PLC. I can't make an app GPL if one part of it is a CSS DLL which has to pe payed per copy and for which I don't have the source. Am I evil? My consequence is to look for alternatives to Gnat be it other Ada compilers in an affordable price range (0 .. 2000�) or other languages. BTW: does GtkAda (as long as it is GMGPL) work with ObjectAda? -- Michael Bode