From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,d275ffeffdf83655 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Chris Morgan Subject: Re: Ada mode requests (Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Date: 1999/02/04 Message-ID: <87yame2cb0.fsf@mihalis.ix.netcom.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 440701251 Sender: cm@mihalis.ix.netcom.com References: <78kk11$qmd$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <78ks1t$253$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36affcb4.14065782@news.geccs.gecm.com> <36B1F27A.6762@gecm.com> <78tm5g$kb1$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <36b7695a.2630918@news.geccs.gecm.com> <873e4oqtz1.fsf@mihalis.ix.netcom.com> <36b89f98.2045516@news.demon.co.uk> <874sp34287.fsf@mihalis.ix.netcom.com> <36B9DA0A.40D0@gecm.com> Organization: Linux Hackers Unlimited X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Feb 04 1:32:22 PM CST 1999 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-02-04T13:32:22-06:00 List-Id: This point is moot now (see Prof. Dewar's announcement) but I thought I'd respond anyway. John McCabe writes: > You may notice that all the parts of your message I have left in here > have referred to alternative version brached from the original e.g.: > > EGCS - Not GCC > GNAT For Linux - Not just GNAT > XEmacs - Not Emacs > Gnus - Not GNUS (Subtle this one!) > XFree86 - Not ?? > ada-mode (from ACT) - ada-mode (from FSF) > > So basically everything that people have branched off from an original > package has been called something different *except* for ada-mode from > ACT. This is the point I'm trying to make. You are correct as far as you go, however the above are more like marketing names, since the software is in each case a drop-in replacement which in practice works the same. To use GNAT for linux I still type gnatmake, to use Gnus I type M-x gnus and to run XFree86 I type startx (or perhaps init 4). XFree86 in particular corresponds exactly to X/Xt from the point of view of the user (X protocol, XLib, Xt) it just has some nifty stuff in the X-server department. Admittedly XEmacs is normally installed as xemacs. By this reasoning if the file was called ACT-ada-mode-for-gnat.tar.gz but became ada-mode.el it wouldn't be that different from the above but you might be happier. Still, if we're only talking about names it's not so important. What I didn't like was the implication of wrongdoing or misrepresentation. > > ACT's ada-mode, for GNAT users *may* be the best thing since sliced > bread, but it's still called ada-mode, not gnat-mode. I (and Brian) > obviously are really just suggesting that ada-mode should simply have > had the gnat-specific enhancements added asa a separate package > (gnat-mode) that required ada-mode. This is not a difficult thing to do, > and now we've started to discuss things, it seems that we may all get > what we want to some extent. It looks like the Emacs+proprietary Ada compiler users may have to pull in their horns here, see the announcement, but of course you can get together and and make an Ada-Mode for ProprietaryAda team if you want. If you do and if there is good work done I'm sure Emmanuel Briot will be happy to collaborate with you. An interesting discussion here anyway, I hadn't thought about all these splits in this light before. Cheers, Chris -- Chris Morgan