From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,3cfb037adfeca545 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,3cfb037adfeca545 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,3cfb037adfeca545 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,3cfb037adfeca545 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,3cfb037adfeca545 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,3cfb037adfeca545 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,3cfb037adfeca545 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Ben Pfaff Subject: Re: Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? Date: 1999/07/29 Message-ID: <87yafzi9k1.fsf@pfaffben.user.msu.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 506681688 Sender: blp@pfaffben.user.msu.edu References: <67et6o$dql@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <882757510snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> <67ktrg$ibk@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <883319809snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> <68bt2p$d48@lotho.delphi.com> <34a991f0.2379476@news.diac.com> <68dm0i$brv1@news.fiberlink.net> <01bd198f$4050d960$68c8b5cc@dhite.unicomp.net> <34B71B71.1EFDCAD8@ix.netcom.com> <34B8DC0F.BA0554DB@acm.org> <01bd1ebd$8580b9a0$b2684bc2@xzSys> <34BA520B.534F@mail.state.wi.us> <34D2BDE3.6ECF9A19@siu.edu> X-AUTHid: pfaff Organization: Michigan State University Reply-To: pfaffben@msu.edu Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-07-29T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Larry Wiggins writes: the only thing that most of the people on this group have failed to notice. That is the fact that most programmers are required by their college curricula to complete two years of math covering calculus, linear algebra, discrete math, and statistics, and probability That doesn't mean that programmers without a degree don't know anything about those subjects. For instance, I learned most of the relevant parts of these subjects well in advance of going to college simply because I needed them to write the software that I wanted to write. ....as well as physics and chemistry Which are irrelevant for programmers unless you're writing software for use with either of these subjects. ....so there for, many programmer's with an actual degree will do well, possibly better, because they will have been formally taught these subject as well as structured programs.... I haven't been impressed with the ability of the CS students I've met to write structured programs. All of the best programmers I've met have been self-taught. -- "In My Egotistical Opinion, most people's C programs should be indented six feet downward and covered with dirt." -- Blair P. Houghton