From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,2c7b0b777188b7c4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.cs.univ-paris8.fr!proxad.net!infeed-1.proxad.net!news8-e.free.fr!not-for-mail Sender: sam@willow.rfc1149.net From: Samuel Tardieu Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT GPL Edition Maintenance and Upgrades References: <1128499462.850353.146890@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87ek6zom2h.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <87ek697ga5.fsf@willow.rfc1149.net> <435e99ee$0$23939$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> Date: 25 Oct 2005 23:13:22 +0200 Message-ID: <87wtk15mh9.fsf@willow.rfc1149.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Leafnode-NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:660:330f:f810:211:2fff:fea6:3aa1 Organization: Guest of ProXad - France NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Oct 2005 23:15:04 MEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.56.47.149 X-Trace: 1130274904 news8-e.free.fr 3260 81.56.47.149:57637 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:5937 Date: 2005-10-25T23:15:04+02:00 List-Id: >>>>> "Georg" == Georg Bauhaus writes: Georg> Do you have any indication that AdaCore offers software under Georg> anything but GPL or GMGPL? I don't, and I don't think you Georg> have. I think there isn't any. I don't think either, but this is not the point at all. Georg> They use "the modified GPL for runtime stuff", see FSF Georg> GNAT. They have made a new, *additional* offering by packaging Georg> tons of software for "writing free software". They are even Georg> considering whether they can offer terms and conditions for Georg> combining software that uses different open source Georg> licenses. (According to the libre web site.) Exactly, they have made an additional offering, under a different license, leading to the first dual license for GNAT (GPL and GMGPL) that I know of. This is their right, but they said they chose not to do it in the past, see below. Georg> What makes you think that "AdaCore changed their mind and Georg> strategy completely?" Have you read the part I quoted? Here is a more reduced excerpt from Robert's post: (without changing the meaning of what he said, check the archives on Google Groups for example for the whole post) "it is quite fine legally for someone to distribute GPL'ed software for price $x, possibly $0, and charge you a bundle for a separate license that allows you to use the same software in a proprietary context [...] at ACT we prefer a completely clean situation with no such dual licensing, which is why we use the modified GPL for runtime stuff". AdaCore is now doing exactly what Robert said they chose not to: distribute GPL'ed software for price $0 [GNAT GPL] and charge people a bundle for a separate license that allows them to use the same software in a proprietary context [GNAT Pro] (I am paraphrasing him here as you can easily see). Looks like a huge change in mind and strategy to me compared to what was said and written before. You may think that this change is for good. But you cannot deny that this goes against the strategy that had been developed up to GNAT 3.15p. Sam -- Samuel Tardieu -- sam@rfc1149.net -- http://www.rfc1149.net/sam