From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mark Carroll Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Connections to this Crypto. Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:06:54 +0000 Organization: none Message-ID: <87vblc7mwh.fsf@ixod.org> References: <1a2fea61-bcc1-43a9-b6e3-edf474308402@googlegroups.com> <5d31987b-b96b-481b-ac4d-f87114257bb4@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="1b3e5cba9e4d07a53741e6f3d1717925"; logging-data="13586"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18/lAUTbkDRh/srORvRdJEI" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:hbvsG4kgjMK0XvCoYl2DZC5XDmQ= sha1:bRQBW5OhtgelzvDvVJKpzjOAzlA= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:24016 Date: 2014-12-15T19:06:54+00:00 List-Id: Austin Obyrne writes: > The bottom line has to be "Where are the ciphers that all these clever readers have written? - there blowing in their own wind can be the only answer - there's pedantry, politics and petulance, vicious personal attacks but no ciphers" > A bit like the golfer who has a lovely set of clubs, polishes the bag , cleans and polishes his shoes, buys some snazzy outfits with a white cap, knows the rules of the game inside out panders to club politics with lots of 'me too' stuff but never hits a ball. Not really. I would have loved to developed worthwhile ciphers. In some of my master's program work I developed software for generating and assessing block ciphers; only last year I worked on an idea for automating differential cryptanalysis to assist in my ideas for creating ciphers. (It failed miserably.) I am /not/ offering cipher designs because I have read enough and learned enough and tried enough to have found that I am simply not good enough at it: that other people in the field are far more skilled than I am, and that I still don't understand the theory well enough to devise ciphers and provide credible assurance of their security. I'm not like a golfer who panders to club politics, I'm like a golfer who likes the game but after a lot of trying and even two rounds of classes still can't even hit the ball reliably and realizes that his efforts are best applied elsewhere. I wouldn't have responded to you at all had you not been persistently filling an Ada group -- something I /am/ interested in reading about -- with your peculiar assertions and misapprehensions, which I've made a good-faith constructive effort to help you move past. -- Mark