From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,d0f6c37e3c1b712a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.scarlet.biz!news.scarlet.biz.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:54:29 -0500 From: Ludovic Brenta Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada in Debian: most libraries will switch to the pure GPL in Etch References: <1151405920.523542.137920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151422118.772405.307200@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:54:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87r719kqdc.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:YiHZ7VpvI203Rsijh1vcxVCsL6s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.235.193.201 X-Trace: sv3-mvmMAzFba9tcc8p9yZWYZpMC2Zo4mNXS4NsoKZemttzjG5CMzvBQvPLVfdHt0ChvWFwJLup6m+8/M0L!cBHfOpMY6qDbJ3iw/yar9JrOE2rteC/2xdWwoc9I4szR6izT9QlFvYvvFYlnAHokQT0WCO/jloc= X-Complaints-To: abuse@scarlet.be X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@scarlet.biz X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:5245 Date: 2006-06-28T21:54:39+02:00 List-Id: Preben Randhol writes: > Ludovic Brenta wrote on 27/06/2006 (17:30) : >> > 1) the GMGPL licences issued by AdaCode and others are being revoked? >> >> Switched to pure GPL, not revoked. The "linking and generic >> instantiation" exception is revoked. > > Can you update the packafe descriptions of the ada packages saying something > like: Please note: You will only be able to make pure GPL programs with > this compiler/library. I've started doing that with ASIS, which I am preparing for upload. I will continue to do that for the other packages as I update them. But the GMGPL remains in force for all packages that were previously GMGPL in Sarge. >> They don't say that, but they refuse to give details on when the switch >> took place. I don't know. Ask them. From a theoretical standpoint, I am >> indeed quite worried that I have downloaded and redistributed AdaCore's >> software, thinking in good faith I had the right to do so when in fact >> I didn't, since I didn't have written permission from any of the >> copyright holders. Remember, the headers amount to naught from a legal >> perspective. Practically speaking, I don't think AdaCore will sue me, >> or anyone else, for that. IANAL. > > If you are worried by this I think we should revoke all gnat packages > from Debian. I am not worried, and since the same reasoning applies to all software in Debian, then Debian and all software should disappear. I don't think that's realistic or true. >> > 5) the SW is Free (in http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html terms)? >> >> Yes, since it is under GPL. That much they are willing to say and >> certify, but not in writing :( > > How can we know that it is GPL? They "say" it is GPL now like it was > GMGPL before. Sorry, but I don't trust the ACT anymore. Ask the authors, if you trust the AUTHORS file :) > I think I'll stick with Python or other languages where one can relate > to licenses. That will not solve the problem. -- Ludovic Brenta.