From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Rubin Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Successor Language Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2018 17:24:25 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: <87r2ln1jra.fsf@nightsong.com> References: <5e86db65-84b9-4b5b-9aea-427a658b5ae7@googlegroups.com> <710c0764-bd2a-4b60-a4c2-ae1f0cfba4e7@googlegroups.com> <87zi0b1x1e.fsf@nightsong.com> <87ed9cd4-f00a-4324-ad60-8fb1eeaa3eb4@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="80a0b3386568bcb6d01d86235f4fbd0e"; logging-data="4870"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/ciHoT+9iwSJSm3n12ezfP" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cw9fJKaL1vhWxJyRGr6SXf1zMw4= sha1:xz6lqZM5OEajxryh63cI15HxC3g= Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:52897 Date: 2018-06-03T17:24:25-07:00 List-Id: "Dan'l Miller" writes: > C's syntax derives directly from B. (B descended from BCPL at Multics > but BCPL had a more Algol-esque/PL/I-lite syntax.) B originated in > 1969. Yes, Algol (starting 1958) is considerably older in computing history. I do see that BCPL used curly braces though. > Job postings are a moderately good leading indicator.... > 1) Java, Java, everywhere, including non-UI/UX embedded systems. > 2) C/C++ for embedded hard-realtime. > 3) Ada-to-C++ conversion to decommission Ada systems. Oh well, 2) and 3) are unfortunate I guess. 1) is meh: I can see advantages to using Java (or these days Scala) in non-realtime programming. Rust's ascendance shows people really do see the issues of C and C++, enough to be willing to switch languages. That they chose to develop a new language instead of using Ada supports the idea that it's time for an Ada successor. Is Rust the successor? Should Mozilla's Firefox rewrite have just used Ada instead? I dunno.