From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3a4656a5edc0dab4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news1.google.com!news-spur1.glorb.com!news.glorb.com!newsgate.cistron.nl!transit.news.xs4all.nl!195.241.76.212.MISMATCH!tiscali!transit1.news.tiscali.nl!dreader2.news.tiscali.nl!not-for-mail Sender: lbrenta@deuteronomy Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada used in General Aviation (GA) applications? References: <409F69CB.8020604@noplace.com> <40A218DD.9090903@noplace.com> <40A36368.7050104@noplace.com> From: Ludovic Brenta Date: 15 May 2004 00:35:53 +0200 Message-ID: <87pt96vdpy.fsf@insalien.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Tiscali bv NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 May 2004 00:34:40 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.134.238.44 X-Trace: 1084574080 dreader2.news.tiscali.nl 41749 83.134.238.44:34283 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tiscali.nl Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:596 Date: 2004-05-15T00:34:40+02:00 List-Id: "Kai Glaesner" writes: > So the question is: what's embedded? > > When I was working for a small avionics company several years ago > producing "Flight Inspection" and navigation avionics they developed > their software in Modula-2 using VMEbus Motorola boards running > OS9. Is that embedded? Definitely. > I think today's avionics tend to more and more based on COTS > hardware and rely heavily on concurrency, distribution, being > physical connected via ethernet and using kind of realtime-ORB's as > an communication infrastructure. At Barco we design the displays down to the layout of the boards. Most of the ASICs and processors are COTS, but not much more. > Do you catch the drift? These are all domains Ada is good in. Yes. We use Ada for almost everything. > I dont think the problem are Ada compilers being targeted to the > wrong processor, but software managers in avionic business not > knowing about Ada capabilities in the above mentioned > architectures. This leeds to e.g UPSAT (now Garmin) deploying a > PC104-based(certified) Moving Map Display (the MX20), dvelopped in > C/C++ running under Windoze NT(!). Certified to what level? When we do DO-178B level A or B we certainly do not use Windows XP. If it's level E then it is not life-critical, and the only potential problem is customers complaining they've paid millions in development contracts just to get the blue screen of death :) -- Ludovic Brenta.