From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!transit.news.xs4all.nl!195.241.76.212.MISMATCH!tiscali!transit1.news.tiscali.nl!dreader2.news.tiscali.nl!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) References: <4229bad9$0$1019$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <13886201.p35jjuWv0U@linux1.krischik.com> <1469548.NGp2tEzqc5@linux1.krischik.com> From: Ludovic Brenta Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 00:35:11 +0100 Message-ID: <87psyb58sw.fsf@insalien.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:BnbB+y4WleitTsEJHfpEspV2jM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Tiscali bv NNTP-Posting-Date: 08 Mar 2005 00:34:53 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.134.237.66 X-Trace: 1110238493 dreader2.news.tiscali.nl 44081 83.134.237.66:37167 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tiscali.nl Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8835 comp.lang.c++:44528 comp.realtime:1050 comp.software-eng:4596 Date: 2005-03-08T00:34:53+01:00 List-Id: Martin Krischik writes: > > > Paul E. Bennett wrote: > >> reviews and testing. Therefore, I tend to look at the development >> processes and their "real" CMM rating. I guess the Ariane team went down a >> few notches on that project. > > Only it was a contractors team and they where not there anymore to be asked > if the Ariane 4 software could be run on the Ariane 5. > > That was one of the reaons why the testsuite was not run: The did not have > the personal to do it the they would have to hire and teach new contractors > to do it. > > My point stands: management bug. > > Martin I thought it was because the telemetry data required to simulate a launch was classified, and managers decided that the contractors "didn't need to know" this data. If it weren't for this secrecy, the contractors would have found the bug on the first simulated run of the software. -- Ludovic Brenta.