From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, MSGID_RANDY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,2e91a32061bde112 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Robert Dewar Subject: Re: JAVA and ADA JGNAT Date: 2000/02/06 Message-ID: <87jrv3$n7r$1@nnrp1.deja.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 582235030 References: <862sv5$sug$1@pirates.Armstrong.EDU> <862t3o$9aa1@news.cis.okstate.edu> <86k8r6$alp$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <86kpbu$aik1@news.cis.okstate.edu> <86la8r$519$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <87i8h0$lki$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x22.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 205.232.38.14 Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Feb 06 13:12:03 2000 GMT X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDrobert_dewar Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.61 [en] (OS/2; I) Date: 2000-02-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article , Pascal Martin wrote: > In article <87i8h0$lki$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Robert Dewar wrote: > Well.. Transmeta is not in competition with RedHat: Of course Transmeta is in competition with Redhat, sure they do not currently compete head on, but they are both aiming at the commercial Linux market. Right now, Redhat is not focussed on the same area (Transmeta's aim is to produce a mobile version of Linux, which is stripped down, and it will not be "just a kernel". By the way, this version of Linux is not yet available from TM, so saying that Transmeta "releases a Linux Kernel" is wrong. If you are talking about the general work TL does with the Linux kernel, I would not regard that as a TM product at all (it was not mentioned in the big press do last week for example, except in passing). It is Mobile-Linux (tm, or at least I think it is trademarked) that is the product. Redhat is not currently in the mobile Linux market, but that does not mean they are not both competitors. Take Tivo as an example. Currently this consumer product uses a version of Linux developed specifically for Tivo, but I can see this kind of market as a target for both Redhat Linux and Mobile-Linux. > > If you really think that Redhat is doing no development, then > > it is simply because you are unaware of the major development > > I am aware of it: I use Gnome :-), in which RedHat participated a lot. No, no, I am not talking about things like Gnome, which was developed openly, I am talking about the internal development projects which are well known in the valley (as I said, this is not just a matter of secrets leaking out, though everyone in the valley always knows what is going on except in very unusual cases like Transmeta), but also because of the press releases Redhat has made. > Add to that the fact that many developments made in RedHat > labs are copyrighted by the Author (not RedHat) and follow > this one when he leaves (Rasterman and Enlightment comes to > mind). The only special power held by the copyright holder for GPL'ed software is the ability to subsequently release a version under some other license (e.g. a fully proprietary product). So this is not really an issue (I am not sure why you raised it). > Considering Microsoft, software editors may have a bright > future (a lot of Microsoft technologies have been developped > outside of Microsoft..). Well if you think that Microsoft is simply a software editor and does no internal development, then your viewpoint is even more remote from reality than I thought. I am not even sure what you are referring to when you talk about Microsoft technologies developed outside of Microsoft. Sure the original version of DOS was purchased, but even todays DOS (let alone todays Windows and NT) contains little of that original code. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.