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From: Ludovic Brenta <ludovic@ludovic-brenta.org>
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Subject: Re: Why no socket package in the standard ?
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:57:53 +0200
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Adam Beneschan writes on comp.lang.ada:
> On May 25, 9:36 am, Ludovic Brenta <ludo...@ludovic-brenta.org> wrote:
>> Yannick Duchêne wrote on comp.lang.ada:
>>
>>> Peter C. Chapin a écrit:
>>>> It also true that autoconf is a travesty... a throwback to a darker
>>>> age when the POSIX standard did not exist (or at least was not
>>>> widely implemented).
>>
>>> I do not know that much about Autoconf, so I can't really understand
>>> what that mean and implies (someone else here also say a bit the
>>> same as you too).
>>
>> Make was invented to overcome the deficiencies of C, notably the lack
>> of modular programming and dependency management.
>>
>> Automake was invented to overcome the deficiencies of make, notably
>> the poor maintainability of Makefiles.
>>
>> Configure was invented to overcome the deficiencies of early UNIX
>> systems, notably the lack of conformance to POSIX, and their impact
>> of the maintenance of Automake files.
>>
>> Autoconf was invented to overcome the deficiencies of Configure,
>> notably the sheer size and horror of the configure scripts, which
>> routinely consist of hundreds of thousands of lines of illegible
>> POSIX shell code.
>
> I was going to ask what was the invention to overcome the deficiencies
> of autoconf, but I think I figured it out ... rm -rf, right?

Opinions differ but I'd tend to side with you :)

-- 
Ludovic Brenta.