From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c6567772e9f3871d X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.31.73 with SMTP id y9mr3883123pbh.0.1318963111600; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Path: d5ni28300pbc.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!news2.euro.net!feeder.news-service.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ludovic Brenta Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: organizing deep source trees with child packages Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 20:38:30 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: <87ipnmkuvt.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> References: <21c9e6bb-f4f7-4a00-bde7-68f2c1a42d01@q13g2000vby.googlegroups.com> <82ty7d1ewz.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <3486b228-abdd-490f-b4ef-9ee6b19f65fa@gy7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <7179717a-9837-476c-b564-6599a9c02acd@ff5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <1qk4l4n9zsdgm$.1bvxdhoq5cpx5.dlg@40tude.net> <82hb39umkd.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <82botev9j0.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="BXNTkbADbnVgNI3Ubel2oA"; logging-data="16060"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/3HF1YXZYZYfAeOhqaEGvB" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Fka+LU/mtvmgzS6hxCS8b2UX53o= sha1:e1Rdtv/HxO3I5V4OYjO7+Hrp8Ws= Xref: news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:14062 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: 2011-10-18T20:38:30+02:00 List-Id: Dmitry A. Kazakov writes on comp.lang.ada: > You know, Emacs users and us, the others, represent different > species. I'm certain that a scientific study would show that these > don't even interbreed. Each Emacs user must have been abducted by > aliens in flying saucers... (:-)) OK, maybe that's the crux of the problem. Emacs users can browse, do not need crutches, and do not want anything to get in the way :) I may be an extreme example of this. I use emacs fullscreen, with no menu bar and no toolbar. I don't need, use or want a "desktop environment". My window manager is ratpoison[1]. I use emacs as a desktop calculator, telephone directory and organizer; for news and email, file browsing, and of course programming. > I have no idea how Martians (sorry, Emacs users (:-)) manage their > projects. But I cannot remember more than three phone numbers, have a > mercy! (:-)) I don't remember the key strokes for most Emacs commands, my fingers do. Really. Sometimes I have to pause for a moment to explain to new comers some of the keyboard shortcuts I use constantly. I use ada-mode to navigate quickly from spec to body, from generic to all instantiations thereof, to etc. While navigating Ada sources, I almost never see a directory, or a file. If I need to look for a unit, the name of which I remember, I use the emacs tags (ETAGS) facility. As a last resort, I'll grudgingly browse a directory looking for a file. Using emacs's power, of course. Oh and the system I work on probably consists of a couple thousand units, at least. -- Ludovic Brenta. The Chief Human Resources Officer quickly enables our forward plannings by leveraging the governance.