From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, MSGID_RANDY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,2e91a32061bde112 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Robert Dewar Subject: Re: JAVA and ADA JGNAT Date: 2000/02/05 Message-ID: <87i8h0$lki$1@nnrp1.deja.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 582041356 References: <862sv5$sug$1@pirates.Armstrong.EDU> <862t3o$9aa1@news.cis.okstate.edu> <86k8r6$alp$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <86kpbu$aik1@news.cis.okstate.edu> <86la8r$519$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x35.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 205.232.38.14 Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat Feb 05 22:34:08 2000 GMT X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDrobert_dewar Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.61 [en] (OS/2; I) Date: 2000-02-05T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article , pmartin@mail.earthlink.net (Pascal F. Martin) wrote: > In article <86la8r$519$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, > Robert Dewar writes: > > Actually I think part of what goes on here is that ACT is > > *more* open than a lot of the Linux and GCC development. > > [...] The same is true > > of course for Linux developments at Redhat. > > RedHat is _NOT_ developping Linux. Linux is being > developped by a bunch of individuals and integrated by > Linus Torvald, an engineer currently employed by Transmeta > Inc. Linux is not one product, it is a collection of more or less compatible products, with a considerable commonality. Redhat is not developing Linux, they are developing the Redhat version of Linux, and they work hard to distinguish this so that you will buy from them and not another Linux developer. If you really think that a multi-billion dollar company like Redhat relies entirely on a competitor (Transmeta) to control their internal development, then you really have a reality model quite divorced from any reality :-) Note that for me Linux [more properly GNU/Linux, but perhaps when talking about Redhat the term Linux is more appropriate] development is not just about the kernel, it is about the entire operating environment complete with both free software, open source, and proprietary tools that are part of this environment. If you really think that Redhat is doing no development, then it is simply because you are unaware of the major development projects going on at Redhat. All though these are not yet all open in the sense you mean when you talk about open development, they are certainly not secret, a visit to the Redhat booth at the recent Linux Expo in NY is quite enlightening in this respect. > RedHat develop a Linux distribution: this is kind of product > integration work (akin to software editor). No it is far more than that -- far more. > It is incredible how even computer science legends like Robert > can be victim of marketing image and branding. Actually it is more the case that you are the victim of some fairy tale view of the world that unfortunately does not reflect reality. IPO's in the billion dollar range have quite an interesting effect on the bazarre :-) > I have to work > with someone who also believed Linux was a product of RedHat > and that the HardHat distribution was the "official" version > of Linux for the embedded market, just because of the name > match (how clever !). Well it's *a* version of Linux for the embedded market. Everyone selling *a* version would like people to believe they have *the* version (for example, ACT is quite happy if you think that GNAT is *the* version of Ada 95 :-) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.