From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-11 12:56:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!212.74.64.35!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!btnet-peer0!btnet!news5-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!news11-gui.server.ntli.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Sender: mjw@golux Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. References: <9kbu15$9bj@augusta.math.psu.edu> <9kbvsr$a02@augusta.math.psu.edu> <3B69DB35.4412459E@home.com> <9kp9n7$ivm$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B73337F.862F8D93@home.com> <3B73F844.43D50B8B@home.com> From: Matthew Woodcraft Message-ID: <87g0ay4bs6.fsf@chiark.greenend.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: 11 Aug 2001 20:49:45 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.107.104.73 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: news11-gui.server.ntli.net 997559373 213.107.104.73 (Sat, 11 Aug 2001 20:49:33 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 20:49:33 BST Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11796 comp.lang.c:73632 comp.lang.c++:81810 Date: 2001-08-11T20:49:45+01:00 List-Id: Bart.Vanhauwaert@nowhere.be writes: > Warren W. Gay VE3WWG wrote: > > Pardon me? Are you saying you cannot get a C++ compiler without a > > STL? Don't be silly. > > A standard-conforming hosted C++ compiler MUST somehow include the STL. Out of interest, are there any fully standard-conforming C++ compilers yet? -M-