From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1116ece181be1aea X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-09-08 11:37:23 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: svaa@ciberpiula.net (svaa) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Is the Writing on the Wall for Ada? Date: 8 Sep 2003 11:37:21 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <87f5a614.0309081037.412f6c41@posting.google.com> References: <3F5AE863.35C9D08@sympatico.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.82.87.16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1063046243 12077 127.0.0.1 (8 Sep 2003 18:37:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Sep 2003 18:37:23 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:42288 Date: 2003-09-08T18:37:23+00:00 List-Id: > IMHO again Ada will probably succeed more because usually more > deliberation is placed in programming lifestyle when using Ada. > That's whay Ada is not used, with deliberation you can get better programs, but without too much deliberation you can get enough good programs and quicker, at least at first sight. The game is "Deliver before than the competence", not "Deliver thurstly software", even in systems that must be safe. Ada has sticked on "good software" and not in "fast tools", A team deliberating is not a nice picture for CEO, a team coding and releasing often is a nicer picture for a CEO. Deliberation is not a popular word, productivity is a popular word. No matter they are not opposites, you must highlight productivity, not deliberation. Until gnat, Ada compilers were really too expensive for any company, except really big coporations. Ada comunity isn't formed of young hackers, nor adolescents. And companies want to hire cheap coders, there are not cheap Ada coders, so there are not a lot of companies that use Ada, so Ada is dying. Ada is pretrified, the need of a central authority that controls the language is good, it makes it very stantard, but also stops innovation. And sometimes I think that Ada people believe that it has reach perfection, any change is bad.