From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!reality.xs3.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!loke.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jacob Sparre Andersen Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Build language with weak typing, then add scaffolding later to strengthen it? Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 09:52:37 +0200 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Research & Innovation Message-ID: <87egm3u662.fsf@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk> References: <127b004d-2163-477b-9209-49d30d2da5e1@googlegroups.com> <59a4ee45-23fb-4b0e-905c-cc16ce46b5f6@googlegroups.com> <46b2dce1-2a1c-455d-b041-3a9d217e2c3f@googlegroups.com> <3277d769-6503-4c7f-885f-3a730762b620@googlegroups.com> <9fa68fb7-89f0-42b3-8f25-20e70cb34d63@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 109.59.38.175.mobile.3.dk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: loke.gir.dk 1432626758 4394 109.59.38.175 (26 May 2015 07:52:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 07:52:38 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:G2T2EcVmzZ7+fKmYAqtvZ7aw2Kw= Xref: number.nntp.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:193303 Date: 2015-05-26T09:52:37+02:00 List-Id: jan.de.kruyf@gmail.com writes: > On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 10:04:05 PM UTC+2, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote: >> C++ : 1366 pages >> Ada : 944 pages >> Fortran : 675 pages >> C : 552 pages > modula2 revision 10 [...] 163 pages >> Pascal : 98 pages > Oberon (1990 version) 17 pages > Oberon-07 17 pages How much shorter would those texts be if: 1) All optional sections were removed. 2) All informative sections were removed. 3) All libraries, which can be implemented using only non-optional language features, were removed. And how well would a team of student manage John McCormick's train modeling course with each language? (I think McCormick is still teaching? Can we get him to run that experiment?) Greetings, Jacob -- ACRONYM: A Contrived Reduction Of Nomenclature Yielding Mnemonics