From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:ca01:: with SMTP id k1-v6mr5271959itg.40.1528070164382; Sun, 03 Jun 2018 16:56:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6183:: with SMTP id g3-v6mr457642otk.3.1528070164306; Sun, 03 Jun 2018 16:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeder3.usenet.farm!feed.usenet.farm!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!v8-v6no4625183itc.0!news-out.google.com!f20-v6ni3164itd.0!nntp.google.com!u74-v6no4631798itb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 16:56:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zi0b1x1e.fsf@nightsong.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.233.194; posting-account=zwxLlwoAAAChLBU7oraRzNDnqQYkYbpo NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.233.194 References: <5e86db65-84b9-4b5b-9aea-427a658b5ae7@googlegroups.com> <710c0764-bd2a-4b60-a4c2-ae1f0cfba4e7@googlegroups.com> <87zi0b1x1e.fsf@nightsong.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <87ed9cd4-f00a-4324-ad60-8fb1eeaa3eb4@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ada Successor Language From: "Dan'l Miller" Injection-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2018 23:56:04 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:52895 Date: 2018-06-03T16:56:03-07:00 List-Id: On Sunday, June 3, 2018 at 2:37:38 PM UTC-5, Paul Rubin wrote: > Lucretia writes: > > It's seen as old fashioned because it uses a Wirthian-esque syntax, > > yet C syntax is just as old. >=20 > It has Algol-esque syntax and Algol's best known dialect was from 1960. > C is nowhere near that old. C's syntax derives directly from B. (B descended from BCPL at Multics but = BCPL had a more Algol-esque/PL/I-lite syntax.) B originated in 1969. > > 6) The commercial users of Ada, aerospace/military, don't do open > > source, they use it though. >=20 > I thought Ada was losing ground even in those areas. Job postings are a moderately good leading indicator. Job postings from de= fense contractors in the Dallas & Fort Worth, Texas, metropolitan area fall= into 3 categories: 1) Java, Java, everywhere, including non-UI/UX embedded systems. 2) C/C++ for embedded hard-realtime. 3) Ada-to-C++ conversion to decommission Ada systems. In recent months, I haven't seen =E2=80=A2any=E2=80=A2 Ada-only or you're-g= oing-to-author-Ada-source-code job postings at DoD/aerospace companies loca= lly here. And that includes the local facilities for Raytheon, Boeing, Roc= kwell Collins, L3, General Dynamics, Northrup Grumman, and Textron Vaught B= ell helicopters.