From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.szaf.org!news.enyo.de!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Florian Weimer Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Weakness of Ada is expensive / security / etc. ? Anything else? Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 21:41:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87a8ui1zc2.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> References: <084c0dc7-ae74-4cb8-b1fe-78f42de94291@googlegroups.com> <87pp3m91be.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <871tg2yb7m.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <87lhea90lr.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <87wpxuwvjz.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <87h9oy8z5q.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <87si8iwueb.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <87mvyq7hg2.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <87k2tuwpg7.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <87oaj4oxle.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <87oaj4t15a.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: news.enyo.de 1437939677 1332 192.168.18.20 (26 Jul 2015 19:41:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@enyo.de Cancel-Lock: sha1:+OSVX49XhcQR/bCni6koWvU4saA= Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:27019 Date: 2015-07-26T21:41:17+02:00 List-Id: * Paul Rubin: > Florian Weimer writes: >>> The other products do have good support, though I don't know how to >>> compare it with Adacore support, which sounds very high end. >> >> Can you name a few examples? I have no idea what kind of tools people >> use in the embedded world, and what the support and licensing >> agreements are like. > > http://www.forth.com/embedded/index.html Haven't looked at these. > http://mpeforth.com/xc7.htm Support for that is surprisingly affordable, around $600 per year for a cross-compiler: That's surprisingly affordable for an embedded solution, but it is Forth. Depending on what the application does, royalties may apply, though: > http://www.keil.com/ Here's a leaked price list: Based on that, it appears that licenses cost several thousand U.S. dollars. The product seems to come with support, though, but it's not clear for which time frame. If you need the yearly fee option for continuous support, the pricing is roughly in AdaCore's ballpark. > http://bytecraft.com/ These compilers are not *that* expensive if you need only specific targets: There is no information about the support included.