From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,b2dc1ee691d4409b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.scarlet.biz!news.scarlet.biz.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:38:38 -0500 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Latest GNAT version References: <1123683679.695932.12540@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> From: Ludovic Brenta Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:39:44 +0200 Message-ID: <878xz6ufa7.fsf@tiscali.be> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:g12bYBP2Fu9Qmw7Jj4rFXnuxxwo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.134.242.41 X-Trace: sv3-NZea6vsdFHf3zbZi51iuhksq/FilVxm8QlSVYik7qmuhCh8blqwucUjAu+Uo7e6A287cEtDQRhtZdmy!o+8vCxUo/GdN09doq4rWxRtqipQ90JwmbCiwGGiouHfeihfmn4Tl7zSXZbvDc1A= X-Complaints-To: abuse@scarlet.be X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@scarlet.biz X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4102 Date: 2005-08-13T15:39:44+02:00 List-Id: Björn Persson writes: > If ASIS and GLADE could be lifted out from this hypothetical new "p" > release and used with GCC 4.x releases without a lot of patching > . good. Otherwise I think it would be better . at least for us > free software users . if ASIS and GLADE could be kept in sync > with GCC, because it would be easier to get them into OS > distributions that way. I agree wholeheartedly. The latest GNAT Pro 5.03 appears to be based on GCC 3.4; if GNAT Pro comes with ASIS and GLADE, and if AdaCore made a "p" release based on it, what a wonderful world this would be :) > Redhat provides the Ada part of GCC in Fedora Core, but hardly any > other Ada packages. The situation seems to be similar with > Suse. I've been thinking that maybe I should learn RPM and make some > Ada packages for Fedora Extras. ASIS would be a candidate but it > would have to work with the GCC release selected for each release of > Fedora Core. To my knowledge, Debian is the only distribution that has a complete Ada development environment, including a compiler, ASIS, GLADE, several libraries, GPS, Ada-aware GDB, and a unifying policy to hold them together. This kind of thing takes a lot of work to achieve. I respect your desire to enhance Fedora or SuSE with such an environment, but it would be easier for you to join me in Debian. I've been asking for co-maintainers for a bout a year now. > It's a great advantage to C, Perl, Python and other languages that > they are so readily available in the free Unixoids. A complete > development environment with lots of libraries can be installed with > a single command, or is even installed by default. I want Ada to > have the same advantage, and not just in Debian but in other > distributions too. ASIS is a vital part. Even Gnat appears > incomplete when the tools that depend on ASIS are missing. It would > therefore be very good if there were an ASIS release that worked > with recent GCC releases. (I suppose GLADE would also be good to > have, although I personally don't have a use for it.) It looks like GLADE is being replaced by PolyORB. There have been patches applied in GCC (>= 3.4) that add special compiler support for it in GCC. So, if Annex E is implemented by PolyORB instead of GLADE, this is find by me. I do hope that someone at AdaCore is listening :) -- Ludovic Brenta.