From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,763b126bf5276f4c X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!feeder.erje.net!nuzba.szn.dk!news.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!not-for-mail From: Jacob Sparre Andersen Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Communications of ACM: Sir, Please Step Away from the ASR-33! Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:41:10 +0100 Organization: Jacob Sparre Andersen Message-ID: <878vzbwa61.fsf@hugsarin.sparre-andersen.dk> References: <72b8fb96-2b5e-4ef8-8099-39361eeea853@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 95.209.241.98.bredband.3.dk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: munin.nbi.dk 1293460872 27576 95.209.241.98 (27 Dec 2010 14:41:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@jacob-sparre.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:41:12 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:h5wx4HrcX++oLZUxHSQvLrPNwPE= Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:17124 Date: 2010-12-27T15:41:10+01:00 List-Id: Michael R wrote: > There's a note in November's Communications of the ACM titled "Sir, > Please Step Away from the ASR-33!" with the sub-title "To move forward > with programming languages we must first break free from the tyranny > of ASCII". > > It's interesting that Ada has already stepped away from ASCII. Many of > the test cases for my ZanyBlue.Text localization support library > contain non-ASCII source, e.g., a test enumeration with identifiers > containing Greek characters: This is definitely a small step in the right direction. But I don't think it is anywhere as far at Poul-Henning Kamp would like it to go. I have the impression that as long as our source files are only defined as a sequence of characters, we aren't there yet. I'm a bit scared by the thought of a source code being defined both at the file level (for compatibility) and as a 2D (3D?) visual structure (for editing and inspection). Greetings, Jacob -- "Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen."