From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,80ae596d36288e8a X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ludovic Brenta Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Make, Automake, Configure, Autocong, GPRbuild etc Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:45:18 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: <874o4g6tbl.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> References: <9cb23235-8824-43f4-92aa-d2e8d10e7d8c@ct4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <4ddb5bd7$0$302$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4ddb81b8$0$7628$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <87aaeban8a.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <8762ozahib.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <871uznaczz.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <015e3d6a-772a-41f8-a057-49c8b7bd80e1@w21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> <4MednVYCXuUZQEHQRVn_vwA@giganews.com> <6d913128-402e-47cc-ae3e-273b65198507@n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> <0fa361b8-3e13-4656-9ca9-786dcc8aceef@h36g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <87ipsx8nem.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <82r57k74d8.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <12bp94g7j8v7k.d1ivuuyvwofm$.dlg@40tude.net> <57dd5b82-741b-400a-a279-aff6282458f6@16g2000yqy.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="2X8Bs1k/KVMLGdvqfjIRgQ"; logging-data="18878"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1802grKlC5BiyxPrQV3S9BM" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MQr8tygQDfkd0J84zeamCXfTAPc= sha1:Xt2bcTkQXXU8Ex92ImsstIRgCSg= Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19525 Date: 2011-05-27T17:45:18+02:00 List-Id: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: >> These are different concerns [building vs. packaging] best addressed >> by different build systems. The things you mentioned (mseinstall, >> rpmbuild, dpkg) naturally sit on top of the build system provided as >> part of the software source distribution. I don't think they should >> be merged. > > Not merged, abstracted away, packaging is a trivial concept comparing to > compilation, optimization and linkage. OK, then I agree with you. > UNIX tools are so complicated, because it is a long standing tradition > to have it as broken as possible. If C, make, autoconf & Co. are that > bad, why dpkg should be any better? I never said dpkg et al were any better; only that they address different problems than the build machinery used during development of the software. -- Ludovic Brenta.