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"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:
> If you wanted to use GC you would have to stuff things with
> "hard" and "soft" references to ensure, for example, a proper order of
> finalization (of interdependent things like driver, connection, I/O...

Oh I see, you mean order of finalizations.  Yeah that's an antipattern
in Java and basically not supported in Haskell, other than weakrefs.
GC works best for memory and stuff like file handles should be managed
by other means.

> And why all that? Because somebody was too lazy to think the design
> through?

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?LazinessImpatienceHubris