From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,80ae596d36288e8a X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!85.214.198.2.MISMATCH!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ludovic Brenta Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why no socket package in the standard ? Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 01:35:12 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: <871uznaczz.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> References: <872169864327910446.796089rmhost.bauhaus-maps.arcor.de@news.arcor.de> <9cb23235-8824-43f4-92aa-d2e8d10e7d8c@ct4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <4ddb5bd7$0$302$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4ddb81b8$0$7628$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <87aaeban8a.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <8762ozahib.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="rPrXmWlYhTpgX479xW/wZA"; logging-data="29572"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18qr1dpuvFeN4s+vfjqhKJZ" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:G8WcrhO9qi+canp8axJkNywCjB8= sha1:+XMNg3Wz3fTQbNwZdcV8ry5yCek= Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:20407 Date: 2011-05-25T01:35:12+02:00 List-Id: Yannick DuchĂȘne writes on comp.lang.ada: > These all shows your objection is not relevant : pragmatism is, > however. Your insistence that BSD sockets ought to be part of the Ada language definition is anything *but* pragmatic, especially when there already exists a standard for sockets, called POSIX.5, an implementation of which is readily available at no cost. Oh BTW: no, you do not need all of POSIX if you "just" want to use sockets. If you were pragmatic, you'd be busy writing your sockets application right now, using Florist. > By the way, there is not event something like a standard OS (there may > be proprietaries or not, but none is standard). POSIX is a standard. A POSIX-compliant OS is a standard OS. An OS that refuses to comply with POSIX, or any other standard, is non-standard. Even MVS aka z/OS is standard in that sense. -- Ludovic Brenta.