From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!atc.alcoa.COM"!"VAXID1::VAXID1::MRGATE::\"A1::TUFFS1\" From: "VAXID1::VAXID1::MRGATE::\"A1::TUFFS1\"@atc.alcoa.COM" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: "C" and Ada Message-ID: <8708211523.AA05831@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 21-Aug-87 08:01:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8708211523.AA05831 Posted: Fri Aug 21 08:01:00 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Aug-87 01:23:33 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet List-Id: From: NAME: P. S. TUFFS FUNC: PCCT (16) TEL: (412) 337 2946 An article from "ihnp4!wlbr!etn-rad!jru" (I don't know who this is since no name or paper address was given) comments: > ... Don't expect to see ADA used very widely outside of the DOD >environment... and goes on to argue that the reasons for this are that IBM dominates the commercial sectors and that COBOL will therefor remain the dominant language. Probably true, I don't have too much feel for the business end of the commercial sector. However, I feel compelled to add that I noted with joy the apparent endorsement of Ada by IBM, when they adopted a third party Ada compiler. This seems to me, a dedicated *non* IBM user, an indication that even IBM will adapt under pressure from the largest procurer of computer systems in the world, the Department of Defense. One more point, before you all die of boredom. There is a large installed base of computer systems in the commercial sector, programmed and used by Engineers who think that COBOL is some kind of radioactive isotope. Most of the computers they use have been programmed in FORTRAN, and I sincerely hope that Ada will replace FORTRAN in the engineering sector. Finally, how many organizations still believe in "roll-your-own" software from the ground up? My perception is that the commercial sector is adopting packages such as Lotus for some of their business work, and as these packages become better, surely they or something like them will replace COBOL. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HANDLE: Simon Tuffs CSNET: TUFFS@ATC.ALCOA.COM PAPER: P.S.Tuffs, Alcoa Technical Center, Alcoa Center, Pa 15069 AT&T: (412) 337 2946 Disclaimer: These ideas are mere ramblings, and if they bear any relationship with reality I will be extremely surprised. They do not necessarily represent the views of my organization (but maybe one day they will).