From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 5b1e799cdb,3ef3e78eacf6f938 X-Google-Attributes: gid5b1e799cdb,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!news.visyn.net!open-news-network.org!visyn.net!not-for-mail From: "Mark T.B. Carroll" Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.modula3,comp.programming Subject: Re: Alternatives to C: ObjectPascal, Eiffel, Ada or Modula-3? Followup-To: comp.lang.modula3,comp.programming Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:29:26 -0400 Organization: Aetion Technologies LLC, Ohio, USA Message-ID: <86d47ut5pl.fsf@ixod.org> References: <4fc0934e-197b-4a02-a006-4b64072897b2@h18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> <1a6f78ca-436f-4c06-b363-ceec681b5aed@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: hoshi.visyn.net 5BGqDE//ccglwIeiumtNfP81aVm1f0PSEhYItfuPxm4= X-Complaints-To: abuse@open-news-network.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:29:07 +0000 (UTC) X-User-ID: PhzsktCCycY8AoI3ikbyM/RD6237838PA6EKQFc2Gok= Cancel-Lock: sha1:Hj4NHKY5w83OydzUB8iByuJ34fY= User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.eiffel:376 comp.lang.ada:7249 comp.lang.modula3:77 comp.programming:11953 Date: 2009-07-21T11:29:26-04:00 List-Id: "Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)" writes: (snip) > Modula-3 is still evolving, as it was first Modula, then Modula-2, > then Modula-3 and there was Oberon which came from Modula. > > If sometimes peoples feel one of these is not alive anymore, this is I > think beceause each of its users are leaving on there own island and > most of time do not know about what is going on, on other islands. Wow, that's amazing. I stopped using Modula-3 in the late 90's when it seemed to be dying under me; finally moving over to Java (probably in 2000) was something of a disappointment that I posted complaints about at the time (where's GENERIC? where's TYPECASE? etc., etc.). I'd still sometimes be using it now if I really ever saw much life in, say, comp.lang.modula3 where this thread is going. Debian hasn't even carried pm3 for years. It must be quite a remote little island: are they positively trying to avoid being a victim of success or something? I pray that you're correct - I actually kept my Modula-3 books (have /any/ been in print for years?) and would be using it sometimes now if I thought there were more than a handful of others doing likewise. [ followups trimmed ] Mark