From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,da41aee0d2f1d2d0 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Received: by 10.181.13.179 with SMTP id ez19mr3637351wid.5.1364958188118; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Path: p18ni34168wiv.0!nntp.google.com!feeder1.cambriumusenet.nl!82.197.223.108.MISMATCH!feeder2.cambriumusenet.nl!feeder3.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!193.141.40.65.MISMATCH!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer-ng0.de.kpn-eurorings.net!border2.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border4.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nrc-news.nrc.ca!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.16.185.11.MISMATCH!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.flashnewsgroups.com-b7.4zTQh5tI3A!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada 2005 vs Ada 2012 References: <87wqsuo13u.fsf@atmarama.net> <5752e888-09a3-4c2b-b37c-fa18b0207c95@googlegroups.com> <9b6dnawcsYaRSs_MRVn_vwA@giganews.com> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:43:34 -0400 Message-ID: <85mwtlvq49.fsf@stephe-leake.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KJMoCrdYkrgFRb9s7cZx78jbWgE= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@flashnewsgroups.com Organization: FlashNewsgroups.com X-Trace: b81c151560b10e3fb8a7902108 X-Received-Bytes: 2133 Content-Type: text/plain Date: 2013-03-29T17:43:34-04:00 List-Id: Jeffrey Carter writes: > On 03/27/2013 04:24 AM, Peter C. Chapin wrote: >> >> That said, one of the attractions of the Barnes book is its comprehensiveness. >> Trimming back material would potentially take away from that. > > Seems to me that if a comprehensive text for a language doesn't fit in > a single volume, that's a sign that the language has become Too Damn > Big. No, it's a sign that the notion of "single volume" needs rethinking. This is the twentyfirst century; why should the number of physical pieces of paper have anything to do with publishing? Ada is a large, complex language, but it is very well organized, so a good programmer has no problem comprehending all of it. Programming is a large, complex field, so programmers have to learn how to handle complexity - Ada is a good example. Personally, all I need now are the RM and the source code, and I read those on a computer, where I can search. But I did use Norm Cohen's book when I was starting with Ada. A good, thorough introduction to _everything_ in the language is very useful. An eBook edition would be very appropriate for a modern programming language! -- -- Stephe