From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!backlog3.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Luke A. Guest Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: a new language, designed for safety ! Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <83807308424130240.850471laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> References: <1402308235.2520.153.camel@pascal.home.net> <85ioo9yukk.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <255b51cd-b23f-4413-805a-9fea3c70d8b2@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: KFiqAwc+orlMcuBjjI7dJQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: NewsTap/4.0.1 (iPhone/iPod Touch) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Original-Bytes: 2794 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:186821 Date: 2014-06-10T22:09:17+00:00 List-Id: Simon Clubley wrote: > I'm aware of how much trouble you have had trying to get bare metal > ARM and bare metal PIC32 working because I looked at what you had > done a year or two ago. According to your comments and logs at the > time, it all seemed to be very fragile and prone to breaking in > various random ways with each new version of GNAT. >From my experiments, GNAT is the only GCC front end that cannot build for all of GCC's targets, standalone or with runtime. > There's also the lack of public versions of Ada (or any Ada version > at all) for various non-mainstream platforms. For example, about a > year ago, I evaluated the state of gcc (including Ada) for VMS in the > public gcc kits. (ACT did a port of gcc to VMS for it's customers). I don't know if all the bits for VMS are in the FAF version. > There's also the lack of Ada for microcontroller platforms other than > ARM (ACT supplied) and AVR (ACT/third party supplied). Just think of > all the stuff Farnell sells which doesn't have Ada compiler target I doubt there's enough interest tbh, even though there should be. I can count the number of people who have contacted me about it on 2 hands. > support, but does have C compiler target support. (I mention Farnell > because your website says you are in Leeds.) I seriously doubt they would be interested. All these people care about is C. > To stop you wasting your time, I only discussed it in comp.lang.ada in > the aftermath of the Heartbleed fiasco although I made some specific > suggestions in c.l.a. Already read it.