From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, MSGID_RANDY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e4b2dce209393666 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Ted Dennison Subject: Re: Business Week (12/6/99 issue) article on Software Quality Date: 1999/12/10 Message-ID: <82r7ao$293$1@nnrp1.deja.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 558939855 References: <82hk54$cbc$1@nntp6.atl.mindspring.net> <82kv5j$k6p$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <384eabe7.13628242@news.netidea.com> <82mlvh$mb0$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net> <82ochh$27p$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <82opns$7k2$1@nntp4.atl.mindspring.net> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x41.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 204.48.27.130 Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Dec 10 15:47:39 1999 GMT X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDtedennison Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) Date: 1999-12-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <82opns$7k2$1@nntp4.atl.mindspring.net>, Richard D Riehle wrote: > I often hear it used to trivialize the presence of the so-called bug. If so, its a pretty weak attempt. At this point everyone knows what "bug" means. If you think the term excuses anything, you don't hang out in the newsgroups populated mostly by non-programmer software users. The best word to describe their reception of even minorly buggy software is "brutal". > Dennison takes me to task for being a "shrill and crackpot." I hope > that is not true, but we shrills and crackpots rarely realize it when > we are correctly identified as such. My point of view is simply that I did *not* call you that. I simply said that those are the two types of people who gravitate to the "we must change the word, and the meaing will somehow change too" arguments. I definitely don't deem you a crackpot, and you have about two more threads of this to go before you achieve full shrill-hood. (A state which I'm sure I have achieved on certian issues). > >Personally I think Juliet had it right, and to paraphrase > > > >"a bug by any other name would stink as bad" > > Again with the poetry. :-) I love poetry, as you know, Robert. > I have been trying, as I compose this, to think of a counter-quote > from Shakespeare -- there must be one -- but it does not come to Just make something up. It couldn't be much looser of a parahprase than Robert's. :-) How about: Alas, poor bug! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! my gorge rims at it. -- T.E.D. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.