From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,93a8020cc980d113 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!news2.arglkargh.de!news.ecp.fr!oleane.net!oleane!hunter.axlog.fr!nobody From: Jean-Pierre Rosen Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What is wrong with Ada? Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:12:53 +0200 Organization: Adalog Message-ID: <82dgve.spf.ln@hunter.axlog.fr> References: <1176150704.130880.248080@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <461B52A6.20102@obry.net> <461BA892.3090002@obry.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mailhost.axlog.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: s1.news.oleane.net 1176224460 1779 195.25.228.57 (10 Apr 2007 17:01:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@oleane.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:01:00 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) In-Reply-To: Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14877 Date: 2007-04-10T18:12:53+02:00 List-Id: Markus E Leypold a �crit : > Pascal Obry writes: > >> Markus, >> >>>> Why do they like unreadable code? >>>> Why do they like to play with a debugger ? >>> Good question. That "real Ada software engineers" (like "real men") >>> never need a debugger might be the reason why gdb is so badly >>> integrated with Gnat. That's a thought. >> gdb is used with Ada just not so often. > > Right. But when it is used, it is sorely needed, since this then is > one of the conceptual bugs I mentioned. > Sorry, but I beg to disagree here. Conceptual bugs are found by reasonning on the source, not with a debugger. Every now and then you may need to check the value of a variable at some point in execution to validate or invalidate an hypothesis, but even there, I find a proper trace message much faster and more precise than using a debugger. -- --------------------------------------------------------- J-P. Rosen (rosen@adalog.fr) Visit Adalog's web site at http://www.adalog.fr