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From: Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Is Apex dead as an environment for Ada & Java?
Date: 1999/12/01
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In article <81vh33$3o0$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>,
  "John Duncan" <jddst19+@pitt.edu> wrote:

> CVS is good, and physically it scales, but it takes a lot of
> work to make CVS fit into your culture.

Well I suppose anyone can have a hostile "culture" to any
piece of software. Perhaps the "your" here is inappropriate.
A more reasonable statement might be "we found it took a lot
of work to make CVS fit into *our* culture." Our experience
has been that it has been very easy for people to learn to
use CVS.

> It is adapted for Unix/C environments

We have used it in a wide variety of operating system
environments including VMS, OS/2 etc.

> and it leaves much to be desired/written.

With no specifics that's not very helpful!

> A build environment would be nice, and
> don't even try to say "make".

Sorry no comprendo, it is definitely easy to integrate build
environments with CVS.

> There is an obvious following for CVS and GNAT.  I personally
> hate working with and configuring unix-style compilers

Not quite sure what you mean by unix-style compilers here, it
is more useful if you try to be specific.

> but as long as those are the free
> ones, its what I'm stuck with.

Actually not, you have an edu address right? You should contact
Rational, last time I knew they were making systems available
for small or no charges to universities, and certainly a version
of the Aonix compiler is available at no charge.

Clearly it is not the case that GNAT appeals only to the Unix
style of thinking (whatever that means), since we have many
customers on NT, who prefer GNAT to other alternatives
(especially interesting, since GNAT is significantly more
expensive than some of the alternatives on NT).

> But just because something can be done with
> two different tools, it doesn't mean it gets done the same
> way.

Not clear what you are referring to here ...


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