From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.58.38.137 with SMTP id g9mr5737821vek.6.1390173801575; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:23:21 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.43.137 with SMTP id w9mr184724igl.14.1390173801516; Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:23:21 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!6no19021733qao.1!news-out.google.com!gg4ni8086qab.0!nntp.google.com!p15no23356200qaj.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:23:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <11d71e32-130e-47fd-8ba4-6e780846557c@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=208.66.56.81; posting-account=LvrXvwoAAACC1wHP0nbl3bIZlHjbXQtk NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.66.56.81 References: <874bf843-8212-44a4-b0c6-e20d831325bc@googlegroups.com> <11d71e32-130e-47fd-8ba4-6e780846557c@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <80c52ec0-3d12-4a0d-8e09-21e42b0a5602@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Web Development Using Ada? From: Joseph Montanez Injection-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:23:21 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 3032 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2932329024 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:18231 Date: 2014-01-19T15:23:20-08:00 List-Id: I am not sure there are many components missing. I know the template langua= ge for Ada AWS is slower (as in to get work done, not performance) to work = in versus using something like a template language that can do statements /= loops. For me it feels like Ada AWS template is logicless, which is a good= thing, but for prototyping, its certainly harder to reason with that. Do r= emeber Ada integrates so well with other languages like C++, Java and Pytho= n, i would find it hard pressed to say its impossible to fix that issue, us= ing a library or external system to process template that is not Ada specif= ic. You can probably look to Gearman as a possible solution. Other then that, mysql, redis, and other tools needed are all there. The pr= oblem I've run into, is that compared to Ada AWS and GNATColl SQL, most of = the web components you will use that are outside those libraries, are the m= inimum needed to interace with them in Ada. Some of them are procedural Ada= , some are OOP Ada, but really it's being consistant with the rest of your = ada code. On top of that these will have forced datatypes that are particul= ar to that library and then you have data type juggling. I think the quality behind Ada AWS and GNATColl is amazing and if your okay= with Postgres / SQLite as your database, then your conflict would be low. = For me I evaluated Ada for a "realtime" chat system for a website. I built = an example in Ada, using tasks, and using Ada AWS with socket hand off, and= then build an example in NodeJS using socket.io. After consulting the team= we went with NodeJS, merely because of the issue of learning a new languag= e, it was not Ada specific. Since then Ada AWS has released websocket suppo= rt.=20