From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,21960280f1d61e84 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: in defense of GC References: <1169531612.200010.153120@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2tfy9vgph3.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1g7m33bys8v4p.6p9cpsh3k031$.dlg@40tude.net> <14hm72xd3b0bq$.axktv523vay8$.dlg@40tude.net> <4zwt33xm4b.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1j7neot6h1udi$.14vp2aos6z9l8.dlg@40tude.net> <1170838486.7656.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1170891160.30084.116.camel@localhost> <0xzm7puj9c.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1171030171.5352.39.camel@localhost.localdomain> From: Markus E Leypold Organization: N/A Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:17:41 +0100 Message-ID: <7xy7n7uwyi.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> User-Agent: Some cool user agent (SCUG) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SoUqPh3+Vl6mtywQY2cSgQCZ7eY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.72.219.206 X-Trace: news.arcor-ip.de 1171037550 88.72.219.206 (9 Feb 2007 17:12:30 +0200) X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor-ip.de Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!news.germany.com!news.tu-darmstadt.de!newsfeed.hanau.net!news-fra1.dfn.de!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!news.arcor-ip.de!not-for-mail Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:9200 Date: 2007-02-09T17:17:41+01:00 List-Id: Georg Bauhaus writes: > On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 09:49 +0100, Markus E Leypold wrote: >> Georg Bauhaus writes: >> >> > On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 12:19 +0100, Markus E Leypold wrote: >> >> Georg Bauhaus writes: >> >> >> > >> >> > If you do this, perhaps you can find the time to use a, uh, stop-watch >> >> > to measure the time it takes to produce, read, and change the programs? >> >> > I.e., to technically manage significant software. The times will be >> >> > important input for deciding whether or not static typing does indeed >> >> > help in production. >> >> > The only thing that relates to economic efficiency, if you want it :-) >> >> >> >> So the how long a beginner in a specific language takes to do >> >> something is "important input for deciding ..." if compared to what, >> >> exactly? >> > >> > I don't think Ray is a beginner in functional programming. >> >> >> So the how long a beginner in a specific language takes to do > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> I should think I have been quite clear on that. > > If your question is asking how much time a beginner will need If that is you only question, fine. It wasn't mine. > to start coding productively in either dynamically typed language > or statically typed language, then this is a somewhat related question. In just the same way that a GUI makes it easy for a beginner to start using applications and "surfing" the internet. Does give us reason to suspect that GUIs have a larger "power" in the sense that you can do more with them? "Somewhat related" does not seem to be related enough for the questions you had. Regards -- Markus