From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, MSGID_RANDY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e80a1497a689d8a5 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Robert Dewar Subject: Re: Ammo-zilla Date: 1999/11/01 Message-ID: <7vkjea$b34$1@nnrp1.deja.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 543100235 References: <38120FAF.945ADD7D@hso.link.com> <7uutgd$87h$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <19991024.18033546@db3.max5.com> <38189268.43EB150F@mail.earthlink.net> <86ogdjtdwz.fsf@ppp-115-70.villette.club-internet.fr> <7vadsp$8q61@news.cis.okstate.edu> <1999Oct28.221910.1@eisner> <7vb3c4$8a21@news.cis.okstate.edu> <7vhg2n$7ht$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x42.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 205.232.38.14 Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Nov 01 17:42:34 1999 GMT X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDrobert_dewar Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) Date: 1999-11-01T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article , Robert A Duff wrote: > I understand your concern, but I don't think it's all that bad -- I > don't think it's unreasonable to have Unchecked_Conversion of pointers > and garbage collection in the same language. You have to be careful, > and you have to minimize and isolate the low-level stuff. After all, > the mere existence of Unchecked_Conversion doesn't cause any problems -- > you have to *use* it to cause trouble, and that's a programmer's choice. Well do you understand the concern? Have you done debugging in this kind of environment? I have! A bug that damages the integrity of the collection mechanism can often take many garbage collection cycles to make itself known, spreading like a kind of cancer at each garbage collection cycle. Furthermore, the result might just be a subtle memory leak, particularly hard to detect, when the real reason for the problem has been disposed of many GC cycles ago. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.