From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,71d1fdde81c072f8 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "John Duncan" Subject: Re: Computer Programming for Everybody? Date: 1999/09/13 Message-ID: <7rka1l$7j3$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 524723907 References: <7rbkm4$pn6$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <7ri1ls$1rf9@drn.newsguy.com> <1999Sep13.044659.1@eisner> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Organization: University of Pittsburgh X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-09-13T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Larry Kilgallen wrote in message news:1999Sep13.044659.1@eisner... > In article <7ri1ls$1rf9@drn.newsguy.com>, mitch@nospam.com writes: > > In article , Brian > > says... > > > >> > >>Better than what? Ada? Yes. Python is a lot easier to learn than Ada, IMO. > >>Of course, I'm not a grade-schooler :-). > >> > > > > Easier to learn does not make something better :) > > Why is Python any better for this job than Logo ? > > It seems to me that the connection to physical models made Logo a > strong contender for young children. Am I mixing my age groups ? I think that interactivity was one of the big stepping-stones for the language. The problem with logo is that no one taught it right, I guess. Kids played around for three or four years writing TO DRAW_SQUARE SIDE TURTLEDOWN FORWARD SIDE RT 90 FORWARD SIDE RT 90 FORWARD SIDE RT 90 FORWARD SIDE RT 90 TURTLEUP and not actually writing anything interesting. Logo was neat and interactive, but it didn't have much relevance to kids' heads beyond graphics. The power of the computer is outside of a little sandbox, and python is an easy, interactive way to express yourself using that power. Also, there was a lot of anecdotal evidence for the ease of understanding python. -John