From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, MSGID_RANDY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3e08c98d7ce85399 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Robert Dewar Subject: Re: Kindness Date: 1999/09/03 Message-ID: <7qood6$h3f$1@nnrp1.deja.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 520606858 References: <37CC6844.AB898EEE@rational.com> <37CE93CD.799A225A@pwfl.com> <37CF0FE0.2B299477@acenet.com.au> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x43.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 205.232.38.14 Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't. X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Sep 03 15:10:41 1999 GMT X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDrobert_dewar Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) Date: 1999-09-03T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <37CF0FE0.2B299477@acenet.com.au>, Geoff Bull wrote: > I think you're all being a bit precious. > Getting some help via the net is just another part of > the educational experience. Getting help is one thing, asking the net to do your homework or copying your homework from the net is quite another (we had several students at NYU last semester who got into severe trouble doing this, and that seems quite appropriate to me). There is a big difference between: "has anyone got a program that solves the 8-queens problem with graphical output to the screen". and "I have to do an 8-queens program with graphical output to the screen for a homework assignment. Can anyone point me in the right direction for a simple graphics package usable from Ada that would be appropriate to this problem?" The former is unacceptable. The latter message is a constructive attempt to learn the best way of solving the assignment, and is indeed entirely appropriate. Furthermore, I can think of many occasions on which questions of the second type posted here have elicited useful answers! Anyone who thinks that concern over students cheating and not doing the work they need to do learn is "precious" is missing a pretty important point! Robert Dewar Professor of Computer Science New York University (my academic affiliation seems more appropriate for this particular post :-) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.