From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, MSGID_RANDY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,8cf125f9b558ce64 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Robert Dewar Subject: Re: Linux and Opportunities for Ada Date: 1999/08/20 Message-ID: <7pihpo$v93$1@nnrp1.deja.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 514935668 References: <7osc8q$m42@dfw-ixnews17.ix.netcom.com> <01beeaaa$a56433e0$6eb54f0c@default> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x28.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 205.232.38.14 Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't. X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Aug 20 03:24:49 1999 GMT X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDrobert_dewar Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) Date: 1999-08-20T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <01beeaaa$a56433e0$6eb54f0c@default>, "William Thomas" wrote: > Why should the Linux World be any different from the rest of > the marketing opportunities the Ada vendors have screwed up. > Lets face it, the vendors will only embrace it after it is too > late and their is no hope of gaining market share, they will > appear with too little too late, just as always. Actually if you were around early on in the 80's the vendors spent huge amounts of money advertising Ada broadly (e.g. the series of ads in Byte Magazine by Alsys, which was just one of the many places this kind of advertisement was run). They also went to all kinds of general industry shows. The hard data from this huge expenditure of money was that it didn't do much. Unless you have a product with a potentially mass market appeal, shows like Linux World are unlikely to be cost effective. The point is that languages and compilers are NEVER mass market appeal items, even in the case of popular languages -- no one made zillions of dollars selling compilers (Microsoft certainly does not make their money on compilers). There is a relatively limited amount of resources available for Ada promotion and advertisement, and it is important to spend it most effectively. The general view seems to be that by FAR the most effective kind of publicity is technical articles in appropriate trade journals. That still takes time, money, and effort, but genreally can be far more effective than paid advertising or attending shows. There is another big Linux do in New York sometime fairly soon. That may make sense for us to attend, since obviously the costs are much lower when the show is close to attend. If we do, we will report back to CLA on how well it worked (and if there are Ada/Linux fans in NY, you are certainly welcome to come and visit us). Right now, most Ada users and potential Ada users are still in a wait-and-see mode with Linux, although we certainly see growing interest in Linux as an Ada target, and as a host for cross-systems (GNAT is of course available and fully supported on x86/Linux, and we expect PPC/Linux to be fully supported in the future). Robert Dewar Ada Core Technologies Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.