From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,54c513170bafd693 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: xanthian@well.com (Kent Paul Dolan) Subject: Re: where can we get a job with ada Date: 2000/02/07 Message-ID: <7lrn4.1089$dw3.58010@news.wenet.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 582504569 References: <01HW.B4BFC2820005B06B08A24140@news.pacbell.net> <01HW.B4C1346100072D2408A24140@news.pacbell.net> <949867976.281549@the-rowan.albatross.co.nz> <389e1463.2654619@news.chariot.net.au> X-Complaints-To: news@wenet.net X-Trace: news.wenet.net 949895619 208.178.101.2 (Sun, 06 Feb 2000 19:53:39 PST) Organization: Birthright Party "The birthright of humankind is the stars!" Reply-To: xanthian@well.com (Kent Paul Dolan) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 19:53:39 PST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-02-07T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Gareth wrote: >>*envious sigh* And they all require US citizenship... Personally I'd love to >>work with Ada when I graduate, but realistically my only hope is to find a >>non-military site. Does anyone care to comment on the state of the civillian >>Ada job market? I know that Ada is (rightfully, IMAO) touted as the language >>of choice for ATC, avionics, industrial control etc., but are many employers >>in such commercial domains actually using it? Or should I just accept my >>inevitable assimilation into the C++ collective? Ada is used by military establishments all over the world, not just in the US. On both the military and civilain sides, Michael Feldman's labor of love, "Who's Using Ada": http://www.seas.gwu.edu/~mfeldman/ada-project-summary.html should bring hope to the heart of any Ada programmer wannabe. Keeping automated trains from colliding is every bit as "mission critical" as keeping fighter aircraft clear on who is friend and who is foe during the confusion of combat. >>Thanks... >>Simon >>Simon Brady simon.brady@stonebow.otago.ac.nz > >Ahh.... I see you're from New Zealand. >Don't you have a defense department that programs in Ada? I know that >the Australian defense industries do - and there's a local air force >base about twenty minutes away from my house, and the programmers >there use Ada extensively. >However, Australia doesn't work with the *exciting* stuff, like >stealth aircraft, space shuttles and so on (just submarines that don't >work).... and that's the kind of thing I'd like to do. That over the horizon radar I read about a few years ago sounded right up there, and by now the stuff you mentioned is probably a lot running on legacy code. Why don't you look a little harder before leaping. I live in the US, and have nothing against it, much for it, and your chances of ending up unbearably rich are rumored to be high in my immediate neighborhood (the sort of thing that happens to _other_ people), but our resident Aussie just returned home by choice. You might not find what you expected when you get here, and it is always hard to live with the shock of things like our chaotic and expensive medical system when you expect such things to be accomplished much more sensibly from prior experience at home. He missed family, Australian Rules Football, people who could intelligently discuss ARF, a modestly less confiscatory tax system, cricket, people who didn't consider cricket some bizarre UK eccentricity, reasonable land prices, robust, intelligent, level headed women who didn't think he spoke with an accent, and lots else I'm sure that he didn't bother to share. >I fully intend to move to the US and obtain citizenship there when I >finish early next year. Ok, but you were warned. >- Gareth ===== random archival quality quote ===== And now [my Magic 8-Ball of Destiny] doesn't work. I have no idea what this means. It could have very ominous implications. Perhaps my comrade Rick is right when he says, "I would choose to look at it this way: it is telling you that your life is now completely determined by your own free will." I mean, what a curse to live down. -- j h woodyatt -- Kent Paul Dolan.