From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, MSGID_RANDY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,2080eb40d5b08371 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Joe Wisniewski Subject: Re: Ada Skill Assessments Date: 1999/07/01 Message-ID: <7lgdbn$lnn$1@nnrp1.deja.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 496094499 References: <7lgb74$kob$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <7lgccn$lc2$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x25.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 192.91.146.34 Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't. X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Jul 01 18:51:40 1999 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) Date: 1999-07-01T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Agreed. No difference. Several points: 1. Got to start somewhere if we are going to start. 2. Although, it might be worthwhile, in theory, to talk about whether someone is "certified" in OO, I as an employer/client would be much more interested in whether this knowledge translates to "certifiability" in Ada or Smalltalk or C++ or Java or whatever. I really get the feeling out here that clients are simply not interested in doing real training. (OJT can take care of it) AND they are really getting frustrated with the job shops that sell Ada talent that is just not there. I see a lot of frustration among the higher talented Ada people out there that the spread of salary/rates is NOT commensurate with the "spread" of capabilities. IM(ns)HO Joe In article <7lgccn$lc2$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Ted Dennison wrote: > In article <7lgb74$kob$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, > Joe Wisniewski wrote: > > > Among the last several "Ada clients" for which I have done work, > > I am seeing, in general, a degradation of skilled Ada talent. Now, > > upon closer analysis, the "actual" skills that I am seeing "lacking" > > may or may not be due to one or more of the following: > > Is this situation really any different in Ada than in other "skills"? It > seems there just aren't enough engineers to go around these days... > > -- > T.E.D. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.