From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10a146,fee8802cc3d8334d X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,fee8802cc3d8334d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: kirk@spam_free Subject: Re: Ada and Java. different behaviour. casting long to int problem. Date: 1999/06/16 Message-ID: <7k8tv3$3gm@drn.newsguy.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 490388712 References: <7jt2c0$vrb@drn.newsguy.com> <7k57vb$1ipf@drn.newsguy.com> <3766650F.705125B7@pwfl.com> <7k64t7$igo$1@its.hooked.net> <7k689a$ci2@drn.newsguy.com> <3766C842.E1EAB60A@pwfl.com> <3766D1CC.D712895E@itools.symantec.com> <7k8nn5$qcb$1@its.hooked.net> <3767E8A2.EF1A0570@itools.symantec.com> Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://www.newsguy.com] Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.java.programmer Date: 1999-06-16T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <3767E8A2.EF1A0570@itools.symantec.com>, D'Arcy says... > >How long has C been around? And how long have we had buggy code? >Its not like this is a new issue. I agree. less than best language features are nothing new. C/C++ as well as Java have them. >And if you take the people using Java as a first language then >there is no issue (they get told that this is the way it is). > you are repeating the same argument you said over and over, which is, as long as it is documented, then it is OK. The point of this discussion is beyond this simple view. It is about one language aspect of java that many think is bad. replying by saying: "but it is documented" is a cop-out argument in my opinion. >for some things)... but get over it. get over it? we hear some people who want to use Java to build nuclear plant control software with and to use Java to write the software that will control systems that if failed will end up killing many people. It is important that people know about the lack of safety in Java, so not everyone get caught in the hype that is going around. when my life is on line, I will not get over it. it is too bad that the java designers did not take the time and go all the way and design a really good language, they seem to have started doing this, but the Sun marketing guys must have told to hurry up, and they sort of handed over a half completed job of whatever they had completed at the time. Kirk