From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f849b,37a634fc53a64509,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf849b,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,c2f4cdd9ccfb8ede X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: David95037@spammenot.com (David Kristola) Subject: Something doesn't compute here (was Re: How many different processors do you use?) Date: 1999/06/09 Message-ID: <7jl0jt$qve3@svlss.lmms.lmco.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 487385181 Distribution: world References: <7jk7hk$36s$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: Oh, someplace Reply-To: David95037@spammenot.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.arch.embedded Date: 1999-06-09T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article 1@nnrp1.deja.com, Robert Dewar () writes: >In article <7jjij7$qci$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, > muddy_buddy@my-deja.com wrote: {snip} >> 6. All of the above has created a situlation, where staffing >> Ada programmers is very, very difficult. > >No, not so difficult. > >> Many companies have given up and switched back to C/C++ >> including mine. > >Some have, some haven't. > >> This problem was made much worst by the current engineering >> market, where people need and want to be able to move often. >> Knowing Ada is not a big plus outside defense >> and a few related fields. > >Let me get this right. On the one hand it is impossible to find >Ada programmers, on the other hand knowing Ada is not a valuable >job skill. SOmething doesn't compute here :-) IMO, there seem to be two factors moving companies and people away from Ada: 1. Companies don't want to train people (it costs money). 2. Ada knowledgeable software engineers are rare and therefore expensive, and companies would rather have a cheap workforce. While it is most likely true that experienced people working with the support of a language like Ada can probably out produce (per their cost) entry level coders, this does not seem to be taken as pertinent where the decisions are made. Welcome to the race for the bottom (line). --djk, keeper of arcane lore & trivial fluff Home: David95037 at aol dot com Spam: goto.hades@microsoft.com